Racoon Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 this is just a poll. There are plenty of threads to discuss this in Theology forum. and it gets plenty discussed! this is only a gauge. Plus the belief/religion/alien polls get the most hits... Secret Ballots, Vote accordingly... IDMclean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrotex Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 ...Secret Ballots, Vote accordingly...I yam the third one to vote. I shall never tell you how I voted. I shall take this secret to my grave! :cup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantism Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 mashmallows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallenrm Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I have voted! But honestly speaking I did not really know what does intelligent design means. I therefore visited wikipedia and got a hang of it. Visitors who are in the same boat can visit this link before voting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I would have preferred that the option I voted for to have been labeled Absolutely Not :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted May 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I would have preferred that the option I voted for to have been labeled Absolutely Not :hihi: everyones a critic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnetMan Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 I would have preferred that the option I voted for to have been labeled Absolutely Not :hihi:Absolutes cancel. Ergo, you are nuetral.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantism Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I yam the third one to vote. I shall never tell you how I voted. I shall take this secret to my grave! :)hah yeah, i wonder how good ol' tex voted...:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Absolutes cancel. Ergo, you are nuetral.:evil:I do not follow your logic. Can you explain? :naughty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnetMan Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I do not follow your logic. Can you explain? :naughty:Absolute states are impossible. Even for God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFaithfulStone Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Absolute states are impossible. Even for God. Irony at it's finest. TFS[or at it's most coarse, dependent] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrotex Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 hah yeah, i wonder how good ol' tex voted...:hihi:I toll you an I toll you, my lips are stitched. :)You will never, ever guess, in a million nanoseconds. :confused: So, WHO designed the Intelligent Designer? He certainly could not have just magically appeared out of the vacuum! Didn't someone around here declare that conciousness could not just appear out of a vacuum? Well, assuming he was right, then where did the ID come from? Answer: (He was a prize in the very first box of CrackerJacks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnetMan Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 So, WHO designed the Intelligent Designer? He certainly could not have just magically appeared out of the vacuum! Hermaphroditus' child.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelgeorge Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 not wanting to take any of my opinions to the grave i wil tell you that i voted yes mostly, because i believe that God created the universe and for me its no good saying there is an intelligent design without saying who the intelligence is ,now of course there will be a cry of this is not science but as a read more of science i find theorys that are expounded because they fit the know facts ,only yesterday whilst reading about De Broglie wavelengths i read that for years scientists did not know how light could travel thru space ,and the wavelength theory seemed to be the answer , so for me creation is as provable as many other theorys NG Panjandrum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFaithfulStone Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 [sigh] TFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumConsultant Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Its funny to see so many scientists, who are suppose to observe objectively and then come to a conclusion based on evidence, say that absolutely Intelligent Design, or God does not exist. Obviously there is an intelligent blue print that is an acorn, for example. Where did that design come from? Alot of you would say "evolution". Newtonion physics states, "An object in motion tends to stay in motion. An object at rest tends to stay at rest". Processes just don't start by themselves. There has to be a force behind everything or there could not be motion, or evolution, to begin with. All things would be dead, or better yet, non-existent without this underlying force. And all forces have two attributes. Quality and quantity. The quantity of this force would be its magnitude and the quality of this force is in its intent. In other words, a force cannot come into manifestation with out a reason or purpose. So I ask you, do you really think the forces that have obviously been put into motion have done so with out intent or purpose? With out Intelligent Design? Nobody has ever seen a quark but we all know it exists. To me it is blatantly obvious that God, or Intelligent Design, exists by examining myself and Nature. The evidence is there. But why is it not obvious to others? Because we all have filters we look through and into the world we examine. These filters are our beliefs. We all live in a mental box that is equal to the sum of our experiences. Anything that does not resonate well in our box gets rejected. If your box was shaped differently you would be able to see things differently and have a different understanding of the world around you. People like Einstein, Hawking, and Jesus had enormous boxes. In fact, the other name for this box is called consciousness. So how do you change the shape of your box or expand your consciousness? Its called the Spiritual Path. And for those of you who read this and get mad, your level of anger and finger pointing is inversely proportional to the size of your box, or rather, the level of your spiritual development. Angry? Fantastic!! That is exactly the impetus that propelled me onto the Path of spiritual development. The discoveries I have made since have no scientific comparison whatsoever. Blessings, Love and Light to you all. A Fellow Observer Panjandrum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumConsultant Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I toll you an I toll you, my lips are stitched. :)You will never, ever guess, in a million nanoseconds. :lol: So, WHO designed the Intelligent Designer? He certainly could not have just magically appeared out of the vacuum! Didn't someone around here declare that conciousness could not just appear out of a vacuum? Well, assuming he was right, then where did the ID come from? Answer: (He was a prize in the very first box of CrackerJacks)Why do you assume that it was a vacuum? Just because you don't see or cannot measure what you think is a vacuum does not mean that there is nothing there. We all know Nature abhors a vacuum. Therefore, what you think is a vacuum most certainly is not. Sound needs atmosphere in which to propagate. Light needs a medium as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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