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#52 A-wal

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 03:55 AM

I was meaning that as we genetically engineer and naturally engineer animals ourselves chances are if not in the past the same was done to us by the "sky gods". For all we know they could have created all these different species of apes just like we would do with animals.

It's possible, but it's also possible that the flying spaghetti monster created the universe. You can't just make that kind of claim and expect it to have equal merit.



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Posted 29 July 2020 - 04:34 AM

It's possible, but it's also possible that the flying spaghetti monster created the universe. You can't just make that kind of claim and expect it to have equal merit.

Equal merit to what?



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Posted 29 July 2020 - 04:49 AM

Equal merit to what?

To no extra-terrestrials engineering what happens naturally anyway.



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Posted 29 July 2020 - 06:09 PM

To no extra-terrestrials engineering what happens naturally anyway.

That's you opinion and there is not proof they did not. Just like it is a theory that we evolved from apes. We really don't know either way and it is all just theories. Nobody knows, but you are free to believe what you want. Through my research I would say humans have a lot to do with ET's. There are many ancient texts written about it. There are no ancient texts saying we went from ape to a human not to mention a missing link and short span of time for the evolution to occur in such a big jump in intelligence. It is only a theory of a man named Darwin. I do agree there is evolution in nature. That is for sure. 

 

I think these ET's in the past were masters of genetic engineering and helped to bring about the Cro-Magnon man through these genetic engineering experiments, much earlier in the history of mankind, using genetic engineering from mammals mixed with the earlier genetic mutation brought on by the Dracos along with their engineering of the Neanderthal types.

 

For our consciousness many humans have been conditioned to believe that man evolved out of the animal; that the energies of evolution coming up from the animal led to the creation of mankind, of humankind. I think essentially, it was the opposite; that out of consciousness came rays of energy, split and divided like that from a prism, wherein light broke into various colors and light itself carrying consciousness, unique to its own vibration and color, than again began to split, created still further aspects of being, which again split, carrying further aspects of being, which aspects again split and continued infinitely. The animals essentially are cast off from the consciousness of humans and other higher creatures, and are splits in consciousness that occurred as this big bang of consciousness occurred, creating all the reflections moving down into greater and greater fragmentation. Thus, the Creators, the Creator was the consciousness.


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#56 A-wal

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 07:11 PM

That's you opinion and there is not proof they did not. Just like it is a theory that we evolved from apes. We really don't know either way and it is all just theories. Nobody knows, but you are free to believe what you want. Through my research I would say humans have a lot to do with ET's. There are many ancient texts written about it. There are no ancient texts saying we went from ape to a human not to mention a missing link and short span of time for the evolution to occur in such a big jump in intelligence. It is only a theory of a man named Darwin. I do agree there is evolution in nature. That is for sure.

It's possible, but it's also possible that the flying spaghetti monster created the universe. You can't just make that kind of claim and expect it to have equal merit.

If evolution happens naturally why is there any need for humans to be created by an external influence? It's the less simple answer.

 

I think these ET's in the past were masters of genetic engineering and helped to bring about the Cro-Magnon man through these genetic engineering experiments, much earlier in the history of mankind, using genetic engineering from mammals mixed with the earlier genetic mutation brought on by the Dracos along with their engineering of the Neanderthal types.

What sci-fi book is that?

 

For our consciousness many humans have been conditioned to believe that man evolved out of the animal; that the energies of evolution coming up from the animal led to the creation of mankind, of humankind. I think essentially, it was the opposite; that out of consciousness came rays of energy, split and divided like that from a prism, wherein light broke into various colors and light itself carrying consciousness, unique to its own vibration and color, than again began to split, created still further aspects of being, which again split, carrying further aspects of being, which aspects again split and continued infinitely. The animals essentially are cast off from the consciousness of humans and other higher creatures, and are splits in consciousness that occurred as this big bang of consciousness occurred, creating all the reflections moving down into greater and greater fragmentation. Thus, the Creators, the Creator was the consciousness.

Huh?



#57 Flummoxed

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 04:24 AM

If evolution happens naturally why is there any need for humans to be created by an external influence? It's the less simple answer.

 

What sci-fi book is that?

 

Huh?

 

I am guessing Thoth is referring to Anu, Enlil etc the early sumerian sky gods https://www.ancient.eu/Enlil/ who created man kind, a bit like the old testament God who did that also from clay.


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#58 Thoth101

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 01:48 AM

If evolution happens naturally why is there any need for humans to be created by an external influence? It's the less simple answer.

 

What sci-fi book is that?

 

Huh?

Either way it can be said that Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees or any of the other great apes that live today. We instead share a common ancestor that lived roughly 10 million years ago.

 

The giant leap in intelligence which leads me to believe there was some kind of intervention.



#59 Thoth101

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 02:04 AM

I am guessing Thoth is referring to Anu, Enlil etc the early sumerian sky gods https://www.ancient.eu/Enlil/ who created man kind, a bit like the old testament God who did that also from clay.

There are the Sumerian tablets and I think it may be possible the writers of the Old Testament used some of that story or based some parts off of Enlil and Enki. Except the writers made into one god. Enki was supposed to be the Enki master geneticist of the Anunnaki. Even Scholars and theologians alike now recognize that the biblical tales of Creation, of Adam and Eve, the Garden of Eden, the Deluge, the Tower of Babel, were based on texts written down millennia earlier in Mesopotamia, especially by the Sumerians.

 

Lord of the abzu
The god Ea (whose Sumerian equivalent was Enki)

 

Creator and protector of humanity
Ea is the creator and protector of humanity in the Babylonian flood myth Atra-hasīs and the Epic of Gilgameš. He hatched a plan to create humans out of clay so that they could perform work for the gods. But the supreme god Enlil attempted to destroy Ea's newly created humans with a devastating flood, because their never-ending noise prevented him from sleeping. But clever Ea foresaw Enlil's plan; he instructed a sage TT  named Atrahasis to build an ark so that humanity could escape the destruction.

http://oracc.museum....ofdeities/enki/

 

Sure are these just myths or did they really happen? They are ancient stories that were written on clay tablets. There has to be something about these sky gods that are literally in every culture around the world. We would have to be naïve to not think so.



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Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:15 AM

My idea in this area came about probaby half a decade ago already, and I basically stayed quiet on it, since I definitely needed resources to verify it. But, in a gist, my idea of how apes turned into humans uses some specific variables. One of those variables is strength. The other is culture. Another is intelligence.

When we were in the trees, and when we came down, I believe we differentiated ourselves based on our strength. Going down into the wild with things that can eat us required good strength, also intelligence. Otherwise, how would we survive? Evolutionary speaking, possibly random mutations first occurred with intelligence and/or strength, which made us more able to deal with that which was scary and below. Over time, this strength and conditioning with good intelligence, selection, and a development of culture surrounding this phenomena, over time emerged the humans.

Sometimes I go so far as to say that these prehumans were probably even doing a kind of pushup, acrobatics with their surroundings, and maybe even were good wrestlers, or tricky fighters.

This is my explanation as a person without an explanation. I have heard of punctuated equilibrium. I have even studied physical anthropology, and there is not much out there in traditional academia. Thus, this is what I think happened. What do you think?

I think batshit crazy bozos like you should just stick to Icke and his Lizard people. What has gone so tragically wrong with your mind?



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Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:31 AM

If evolution happens naturally why is there any need for humans to be created by an external influence? It's the less simple answer.

 

What sci-fi book is that?

 

Huh?

The best thing to do with that Kuhnt Thoth is to perhaps lead him by the nose into a conspiracy theory that could have legs on a science forum. The Berkshire aliens hoax on utube has to be one of the best and at least comes closest to being a topic that's fit for a science forum. It anything about aliens qualifies.

 

No doubt Thoth will gobble it up and it will give him some semblance of rationality for a while. Otherwise, he's going to  continue to turn this site into bat **** that turns off rational and normal people. 

 

Assuming that you're not in the loop with him. You may be, along with Flummoxed, the closest thing to normal? Right?



#62 Thoth101

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 10:16 PM

I think batshit crazy bozos like you should just stick to Icke and his Lizard people. What has gone so tragically wrong with your mind?

You seem to be the crazy one with this irrational behavior and your obsession with me. You have all the characteristics of a stalker. I feel bad for your significant other if you even have one that would put up with your lunatical outbursts and obsessiveness. You may want to seek some help from a psychiatrist. Here you go:

 

https://www.ementalh...m=heading&ID=22



#63 A-wal

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 01:46 PM

Either way it can be said that Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees or any of the other great apes that live today. We instead share a common ancestor that lived roughly 10 million years ago.

Yes, that's what I had to explain to you. A common misconception.

 

The giant leap in intelligence which leads me to believe there was some kind of intervention.

There doesn't need to be an external intervention to explain that. The more intelligent we became as a species, the more important intelligence became and therefore the more it was favoured by natural selection. Once our intelligence reached a certain tipping point it then exploded because those that didn't have as much as everyone else weren't able to compete, making tools, setting trap to catch food, etc.

 

Assuming that you're not in the loop with him. You may be, along with Flummoxed, the closest thing to normal? Right?

In the loop with him? I don't know wtf that's even supposed to mean.



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Posted 05 August 2020 - 03:13 AM

Ok, so that was fun. :)

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Posted 05 August 2020 - 03:51 AM

Ok, so that was fun. :)

 

What was your thread about before it was hijacked :) 



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Posted 05 August 2020 - 09:09 AM

this is probably another discussion, I do not believe to the claim stating one kind of survive become another one.



#67 Thoth101

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Posted 05 August 2020 - 09:59 PM

Yes, that's what I had to explain to you. A common misconception.

 

There doesn't need to be an external intervention to explain that. The more intelligent we became as a species, the more important intelligence became and therefore the more it was favoured by natural selection. Once our intelligence reached a certain tipping point it then exploded because those that didn't have as much as everyone else weren't able to compete, making tools, setting trap to catch food, etc.

 

In the loop with him? I don't know wtf that's even supposed to mean.

Well as I have said before, If a dog started asking questions it would wonder why there are so many dog breeds. Maybe we will lie to them and tell them they evolved that way. Or maybe we would tell them the truth and tell them we selectively breeded them to make different variations.



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Posted 05 August 2020 - 10:49 PM

Well as I have said before, If a dog started asking questions it would wonder why there are so many dog breeds. Maybe we will lie to them and tell them they evolved that way. Or maybe we would tell them the truth and tell them we selectively breeded them to make different variations.

 

you are confusing breeds and species, there are only a few species of dogs, there is only one species of human, there are no 'breeds' of humans.

 

Humans are also primates, we evolved earlier primates, that is what evolution does, but there is no 'breeds' of humans. 

 

 

A-wal, on 03 Aug 2020 - 05:46 AM, said:

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Yes, that's what I had to explain to you. A common misconception.

 

There doesn't need to be an external intervention to explain that. The more intelligent we became as a species, the more important intelligence became and therefore the more it was favoured by natural selection. Once our intelligence reached a certain tipping point it then exploded because those that didn't have as much as everyone else weren't able to compete, making tools, setting trap to catch food, etc.

 

In the loop with him? I don't know wtf that's even supposed to mean.

 

Evolution is not really directional, it's more situational, I am also not as sure that intelligence alone really gives people much of a selective advantage anymore. (it's just how a collective society works, every takes advantage as a group).

 

There are also good arguments that the limit to out intelligence is the size of our heads at birth, this is a hard limit to how big our brains can get.