InfiniteNow Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 A thread on the existence of a higher power brought in some information about the US state of Utah, and I wanted to start this thread instead of asking there... Example: As an individual, I live in a society/state founded by and largely (60%) dominated by Mormons. (81% of Utah individuals are Christians.)Not only is it considered a highly religious society/state, but it has been ranked in the top 10 best society/states for an individual to live in. ie... Utah Ranks 3rd Healthiest in NationEntrepreneurship and Small Business - Utah ranked 7thUtah Ranked Best Financial Steward in U.S.Provo/Orem Utah Ranked Number 1 Secure Location Utah Ranked 9th Most Technology-Friendly StateUtah has the nation's highest rate of adult volunteersUtah Ranks 6th for "Economic Freedom"Utah is Number 3 in Women-Owned Business GrowthUtah ranks 9th for Quality Healthcare etc...etc...etc....I was so tempted to attack these points, but found myself more curious as I pondered them more. Those are some good numbers indeed. Why do you think there is such a negative perception of Utah by so many people? Like it's a really scary place, a state-wide cult where the average family size is on the order of 62 children... I know the information is skewed a bit, but why do you think that is so? Why do mormons give so many people the heebee jeebees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Why do you think there is such a negative perception of Utah by so many people? Like it's a really scary place, a state-wide cult where the average family size is on the order of 62 children... I know the information is skewed a bit, but why do you think that is so? Why do mormons give so many people the heebee jeebees? ___The first thing I think of when I hear/read "Utah" is geology & so my impression is positive. ___I get the same heebee jeebees from these folks as I do from any folks who follow some writings claiming voices & apparitions of god or his (her?:) ) sales reps :) beamed in to chat with them & tell 'em how to run things. :eek: ___Angel's Rest in Zion Canyon Utah is a narrow jut of ruddy sandstone dropping over 1,000 feet straight down sheer walls on three sides. Before the mormans drove out the native americans, the native americans had already forgotten the Anasazi who occupied Utah before them.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celeste Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Originally posted by InfiniteNow Why do mormons give so many people the heebee jeebees? LMAO!!!!....thank you InfiniteNow. Though I posted the above to Reibu with an entirely different goal and context in mind, the direction you took with it is interesting (and amusing to myself) indeed. I'll wait for some replies before I list my reasons for "ex-communicating" myself from the church 20 years ago. Turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 My wife was baptised as a Mormon at 16. Today she practices Wicca with her friends on all the pagan high holy days. Which one of these facts should give me the biggest heebee-geebees? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFaithfulStone Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Why do mormons give so many people the heebee jeebees? It's the holy underwear. :) Seriosly, why is Utah so great? I can hazard a guess. It's not very crowded, relative income is high, strong sense of community, and established family structure. It wouldn't matter if you created a state full of Devil Worshipping Lesbians, if you had those four things, you'd have a good state. I think. Anyway. For what my pagan opinion is worth. TFS[no offense to any Devil Worshipping Lesbians in the crowd... I kid, I kid.] Pyrotex and Turtle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted March 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 It's the holy underwear. :eek: It wouldn't matter if you created a state full of Devil Worshipping Lesbians, if you had those four things, you'd have a good state. I think. Anyway.I don't know about you, but I think that even without those four things, a state full of devil worshipping lesbians would be pretty righteous and I'd move there just for the experience of all. It'd be a non-stop party! :) However, I was actually looking at "why the negative connotations," more than "why is Utah doin' so darn great?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drip Curl Magic Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I was so tempted to attack these points, but found myself more curious as I pondered them more. Those are some good numbers indeed. Why do you think there is such a negative perception of Utah by so many people? Like it's a really scary place, a state-wide cult where the average family size is on the order of 62 children... I know the information is skewed a bit, but why do you think that is so? Why do mormons give so many people the heebee jeebees? I don't like utah because I associate bording school/ wilderness camps with that state. blehhh. but I don't really have any problems with mormons. I've never been religious... but I think some people need it to keep them sane. to each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 My wife was baptised as a Mormon at 16. Today she practices Wicca with her friends on all the pagan high holy days. Which one of these facts should give me the biggest heebee-geebees? Bill she's a wiccan! :) that must be a fun coexisting universe the two of you guys observe as One at moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celeste Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 The main reason I feel there are negative connotations surrounding Utah is clearly as you suggested InfiniteNow, that Mormonism is widely regarded as a Cult. For myself, Cult associations often bring back memories like that of the Johnstown mass suicide by another religious cult "Temple Church." The thought that a "religious cult" with such a huge following, 1,246,000, members in Utah, would most likely give many the "heebee-jeebee's", including myself had I not been born and raised here. On a side note, living in Vegas for 8 years, I met alot more people that gave me the heebee's then I could account for here in Utah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted March 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 My wife was baptised as a Mormon at 16. Today she practices Wicca with her friends on all the pagan high holy days. Which one of these facts should give me the biggest heebee-geebees?Think bell curve... always gonna be out lyers... It wasn't an attack, just a question my friend. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted March 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 The main reason I feel there are negative connotations surrounding Utah is clearly as you suggested InfiniteNow, that Mormonism is widely regarded as a Cult. For myself, Cult associations often bring back memories like that of the Johnstown mass suicide by another religious cult "Temple Church." Which makes me think of Boerseun's recent WTF?!? thread... Aren't all religions basically a cult? Just some are less invasive than others... I don't know... I've met mormons, and I guess they are just like anything/anybody else in that my perception of them depends on the person. Some good/some bad... some smart/some not... I just don't tend to hear too many good things about mormons in general conversation, unless that conversation happens to be with a currently practicing mormon. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 The more white people, the better the quality of living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 The more white people, the better the quality of living.:hihi: That's not at all cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Yeah! I am all up on tha' Brother Man's side! :cup: Do some Homework :eek: :hihi: :cup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 :hihi: That's not at all cool.I'm not trying to be "cool". I thought this is "The place to discuss psychology, political science, economics, education and law - among other things"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Yeah! I am all up on tha' Brother Man's side! :cup: Do some Homework :eek: :hihi: :cup: http://www.bofunk.com/video/2138/cops_looting_new_orleans.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I'm not trying to be "cool". I thought this is "The place to discuss psychology, political science, economics, education and law - among other things"?Hello J.B. Yes, this is a forum for open scientific discussion. Your post, however, came across as bigotted and as a generalization against an entire group of people, an incorrect one at that. Besides that, it seemed to have no bearing on the topic of the thread. I will not stand for ignorant and hateful comments, hence my critique of your post. If your intent was misunderstood, then please use this opportunity to clarify your post: The more white people, the better the quality of living. ...and how it applies to this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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