UncleAl Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 http://www.venganza.org/ The global warming graph is inarguable. rockytriton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Shouldn''t this be in the religion forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bang Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Unc, you should post that link on the evolutionist thread. Very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Actually, that's not a bad idea. Kids would probably spend less class time in the REM state, and I GUARANTEE you that they will be more interested in debating the evidence (which is what they should be learning anyways, regardless of theory.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ha ha ha ha ha *chokes* :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csongor Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'm allready asked on an other forum, but seriously: Do you guys want to create an other Universe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 I'm allready asked on an other forum, but seriously: Do you guys want to create an other Universe?:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxian Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 yes i'd like to create a new universe, but until my little bastard string tune fork arrives i don't think such a thing would be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csongor Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 I mean this is allready possible... I think the present space projects going forward to do something like this. After all we are able to understand little more about the present one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csongor Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 One more! So like on any existing planet, we are able to plant any form of life, and if we make it independent with specific rules, it will be one new Universe? Hm...: ) Csongor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxian Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 by which if you are implying our potential skills at terraforming will be at all useful *if* we ever find a likely candidate planet and manage to travel to it in the time of our great grand children.. sure we can mold a fraction of the tip of a split end of the smallest hair on the head of the tiny fraction of the universe we can percieve of. (relative to the mass of the planet (several times larger than earth, a jovian beast of a rocky world) versus the total mass of any matter we could use for such a task and disregarding the rest as useless fluff, cosmic dust and such) but if we can cause a gas cloud to collapse upon itself it is possible that we could create a star system and regulate planet formation create edens throught known space. in something like several billion years once man has evolved to the point where moving planets and stars becomes childs play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWright Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Hmmm... other people get serious ideas threatened with being moved to the "Strange Claims" forum, and UA gets praise. Ah, the scientific method is alive and well indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxian Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 but you can't argue with uncle al, the man eats lasers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questor Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 this ha s to be one of the most misguided posts on the site. since most of the posters seem to believe in un-intelligent design of the universe, how do we explain how the Big Bang ocurred? why did it happen when it did and what caused it to happen? if you believe in superstring theory, what non-intelligent force created the little energy strings or what created energy itself? or how did gravity occur? or what is life made of ? or why is there order in the universe? or who put the information into DNA packets? yes, the universe abounds with many evidences of non-intelligent creation. i guess that's what makes the World go 'round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 this ha s to be one of the most misguided posts on the site. since most of the posters seem to believe in un-intelligent design of the universe, how do we explain how the Big Bang ocurred? why did it happen when it did and what caused it to happen?Its not really possible to imagine at this point in time a testable hypothesis for verifying anything about what happened "before" the big bang. That's why you'll find that there are people who believe in a "creator" but believe that nothing was designed, which to others is sacrelige: this is the essence of the "debate" of science versus religion, but I can only paraphrase Jesus in saying "Render unto Einstein (Darwin, etc.) that which is Einstein's..." There are interesting theories about it, my favorite being Andre Linde's theory of Self-Reproducing Inflationary Universes (aka, multiverse theory). Remember, what's "obvious" to you may not be to others, and you're unlikely convince them otherwise unless you have proof. Faith is a personal endevour... Cheers,Buffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 There are interesting theories about it, my favorite being Andre Linde's theory of Self-Reproducing Inflationary Universes (aka, multiverse theory).Buffy I sent this link directly to my favorites, haven't read all of it yet but what I have read really interests me. This theory is somewhat similar to the view that has been entering my understanding of late. Remember, what's "obvious" to you may not be to others, and you're unlikely convince them otherwise unless you have proof. Faith is a personal endevour... Cheers,BuffyVery true Buffy, very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csongor Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I dont know. I was try to start a conversation about, to create or imagine to create an absolutely independent Universe. But seems to be noone with me, nowhere. So this is a direct question: Dont you think we can understand everithyng about this existing one, if we do so? I nearly close to leave this forum, becouse this is really, really boring yet, and ****ing German scientifics, still try to listen to my family opinions rather then what I'm talking about here. So basically I really dont like this guy with musthche, becouse somehow he try to play the bigthinker here, while he only try to collect infoes. So if anybody open for a conversation, I think this just so really easy to understand the present system, and so we can think about only the future. Csongor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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