How can telepathy be possible in perspective of science?

[Queso]

i don't quite see how that is proof of telepathy.

[DAK]

<i don't quite see how that is proof of telepathy.>

 

Since the scientific method is quite limited in scope... looking in many cases for ONE {or TWO} cause{s}, let alone simply the limitation of the viewpoint of causation in general... one shouldn't expect 'proof' in this sense. In fact, as the 'medical science' community has been shown this for decades; the scientific method isn't that useful for 'proving' any living variables... let alone a variable like conciousness!! Life is non-linear, the scientific method is linear. Note the spectacular blow ups in the drug industry. You have cases where something has been 'proven' over and over again... simply to turn out to be a mistake after all.

 

DAK

[blazer2000x]

I'm really not sure if it exists or not, and I don't really side with it's existance, but I think there is a high probability that there's something going on there. In the events of telekenisis and remote viewing, results have never been achieved that are 100% effective (maybe we are using the wrong testing technique?), such has not been the case with telepathy. Or maybe it's all just chance and peoples imaginations getting the better of them because they want so hard to believe they are more powerful then they first knew. You decide.

[DAK]

100% effective needs no imagination... just a simple trial.

 

DAK

[blazer2000x]

Not all tests were 100% effective, only some of them.

[blazer2000x]

by the way, telepathy trials are all but simple.

[Qfwfq]

Instead of writing it here, I just tell you: guess what I'm thinking!

:)

[blazer2000x]

Yeah that's what most people think, I don't blame them. Why believe something you can't understand and have no actuall evidence for. Kind of falls in the fairytale category.

 

But a few fairytales have been proven true, perhaps we'll see where this one goes in the coming years. :)

[DAK]

Right... like when the world was obviously the center of the universe. Quantum mechanics and the role of intention, counciousness, etc is just now finally being addressed by science after being left to philosophy and mysticism and you've got many many supposed 'scientific minds' laughing about possibilities they've never even addressed!! The sheer indignation is incredible. All that even though anyone would have to admit that subjective experience is the very substrate of all objective science!!

 

DAK

[Little Bang]

The scientific community has been trying to find a way around the effects of consciousness on experimental data for the past 80 years, what make us think their going to change now?

[DAK]

<what make us think their going to change now?>

 

Mounting evidence and the fusion of Eastern and Western {scientific} thought: Lot's of mainstream scientists studying Buddhist psychology and mystic writings on energy. Many will keep calling them quacks until..... ooops, they don't any more. :)) They there will be the scurying around trying to claim credit for that which has been written about and experienced [by the few] for thousands of years... the needed recontextualization of 'god' & 'science'.

 

DAK

[Queso]

IMO god needs to be thrown away and put into childrens books. except make him more exciting, like a purple lizard or something.

[DAK]

<except make him more exciting>

 

If one thinks 'god' is a 'him' or any other anthopomorphic 'thing' separate from the rest of the universe... then I certainly agree. OTOH, all the advanced mystics through time report 'god' is more like the 'unified field'... so probably too early to toss out. ;)

 

DAK

[infamous]

< all the advanced mystics through time report 'god' is more like the 'unified field'... so probably too early to toss out. ;)

 

DAK

Maybe God is the unified field . Just a little thought provoking if I may??

[DAK]

<Maybe God is the unified field >

 

Seems pretty obvious doesn't it??? There have been fields of conciousness talked about for centuries... based on vibration spectrum like everything else:

 

http://www.gayatrireiki.org/balancing/Scale/Graph.html

 

http://www.prayerconnections.org/conmap.php

 

So what happens is that ones perception of everything is dependant on their level of conciousness... ie vibrational frequency. For instance one can find in all writtings of advanced mystics {including Jesus, the Buddha, etc} accounts of extremely uncomforable energy surges accompanying the very highest levels. These were not understood by many and were written off with varying explainations by "religious scholars"... usually from their own viewpoint.

 

DAK

[Turtle]

___This may constitue a telepathic experience; our friend Buffy has been off on adventures for over a month & my telepathic powers indicate Buffy's imminent return. :wave:

[blazer2000x]

There was an account of a modern day similar surge of energy. I think it was in a movie called the Power of Prayer... it was a small town that had been praying for a revival. They had been praying for a long time, then one day they were sitting in a service, and this soft sound like a breeze blowing starts up, as it begins to get a little louder, the person at the controls for recording the service starts thinking their's something wrong with the sound system, so he starts changing the volume, adjusting the controls, pretty much moving asll the knobs and buttons trying to get it to stop. Finally it gets to the point where it's so loud you can almost feel the room vibrating. He gives up and flips the power switch. Nothing happens, the sound keeps getting louder, the tape keeps recording. At this point the room is noticiably trembling and shaking. Desparetly he reaches down and pulls the plug, the sound gets even louder and the room feels as if it's going to fall apart. All this time the people have not stopped praying, though they cannot even hear there own voices anymore at this point. Even with the power cord disconnected, the tape continued to record. To this day, you can still feel a noticable presence when that tape is played.