exchemist Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 ExChemist, do you have a theory? I would like to review it if you have one.If I had one for review, why would I want it reviewed by someone without any science education? OceanBreeze 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanBreeze Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 If I had one for review, why would I want it reviewed by someone without any science education? LOL This thread is a load of BS, but funny! exchemist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) LOL This thread is a load of BS, but funny!Yeah, isn't it? Bad enough for a person to blither on about the Unruh effect when they don't know Newton's Shell Theorem, or why the CMBR is universal. But shovelling in an equation for the current in a diode, in the middle of a "paper" about cosmology, takes us to a whole new level of surreality - knocks Dubbelsox into a cocked hat. Still, as so often, I learn from some of these madhouse threads. Now I know what the Unruh Effect is and why it is so tiny as to be negligible for most purposes (with a freebie in the form of the Shockley Diode equation, though I don't think I'll remember that one as electronics is not my scene). Time for Flummoxed to put on his biological protection suit and delve into the pit again, for more nuggets? Edited January 31, 2019 by exchemist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Its the Unruh Hawking effect, they both discovered it, didnt they? :) Black body radiation. No I don't think so. Seems it is also known as the Fulling Davies Unruh effect. But not Hawking, so far as I can see. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect I'm intrigued as to how they propose to measure it experimentally. The article speaks of accelerations of the order of 10²⁶ m/sec². Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Hawking discovered the application of Bogliubov transformations to black holes as a form of radiation, which is constructed from a gravitational potential producing creation and annihilation operators. Edited January 31, 2019 by Dubbelosix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbelosix Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Needless to say, Unruh radiation also uses such transformations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) The theory is put here for review, if you don't like it then why not say so and move on? The theory has proper units and calculates precise enough to be considered. It uses established ideas. Edited January 31, 2019 by devin553344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 The theory is put here for review, if you don't like it then why not say so and move on? The theory has proper units and calculates precise enough to be considered. It uses established ideas.....from electronics..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 ....from electronics..... No, it is black hole physics. With some black body supposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanBreeze Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 No I don't think so. Seems it is also known as the Fulling Davies Unruh effect. But not Hawking, so far as I can see. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect I'm intrigued as to how they propose to measure it experimentally. The article speaks of accelerations of the order of 10²⁶ m/sec². Well, that’s just slow as molasses compared to Planck acceleration: 5.67 x 10^50 g I’m more intrigued to learn how the electron makes use of mechanical advantage. Gears? levers? what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanBreeze Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 It is fun to debate, by putting forward a theory, even a bad one, people can learn from it. I agree. Please carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Well, that’s just slow as molasses compared to Planck acceleration: 5.67 x 10^50 g I’m more intrigued to learn how the electron makes use of mechanical advantage. Gears? levers? what? Mostly the mechanical advantage is Planck length squared for the black hole instead of Unruh temp energy, which relates to entropy. I'm still examining that. But I can calculate the mass and electric field of the electron, proton and neutron. But yes I'm still working out ideas to derive the theory correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Well, that’s just slow as molasses compared to Planck acceleration: 5.67 x 10^50 g I’m more intrigued to learn how the electron makes use of mechanical advantage. Gears? levers? what?These Planck times, distances and accelerations are not physical things though. They are just theoretical extremes, beyond which current models cease to define the quantities concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Edit You might at some stage have to accept you may be wrong. How long have you been working out your ideas ? a few weeks. It's just a theory I'm tossing around. I thought it might be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 It was more interesting than a lot of the other more :) insane theories being kicked about at the time. Did you learn anything new? Yes, I'm learning about information theory and the Bekenstein bound. I also learned about black bodies and photon gases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Yep, general relativistic quantum inertial vacuum fluctuations in chaps theories recursive fractal vacuum patterns and this was also where I am at Thanks that was interesting. I will be studying the concepts in that video as they appear to relate directly to what I'm proposing :) Edited February 1, 2019 by devin553344 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin553344 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I should not give you this. :shocked: Read with caution, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1610.06787.pdf This Quantum Inertia theory MIGHT be what the fella is going on about in the FRINGE THEORY video Hawking radiation has not be detected and is purely theoretical, the video claims it has been detected CAVEAT EMTOR Yeah, I thought Hawking radiation was still unproven. Thanks for the pdf, I looked at the wikipedia article and it was very basic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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