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Cmb And The Construction Of Galaxies Using Unruh Effect And Hawking Raditation

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#52 devin553344

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Posted 29 January 2019 - 02:43 AM

OK, I added the section back into the theory about charge quantization using charge with something like the Stefan-Boltzmann law. Which explains that the charge of the photon may add up to a greater energy than the Planck energy.

 

The reason I did that is that it explains the nucleon mass and the charge of the electron. It uses mechanical advantage principles to explain the differences in energies of charge and mass. I also indicated that we might not be dealing with Unruh temperature comparisons as much as a black hole entropy defined by Stephen Hawking.

 

I didn't remove anything, I just added some supplemental equations. Some things I need to work out in the theory is how the Unruh temperature relates to black hole entropy instead. Also I need to work out the mechanical advantage concepts and derive both. So please be advised it is a little unfinished.


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 02:53 AM

Great then let's try to keep the trolling to a minimum shall we, we're discussion a theory, not politics.

It's not a theory, just word salad, and nobody is discussing it, as word salad is impossible to discuss. 


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 04:26 AM

ExChemist, do you have a theory? I would like to review it if you have one.

If I had one for review, why would I want it reviewed by someone without any science education?


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 05:14 AM

If I had one for review, why would I want it reviewed by someone without any science education?

 

LOL

 

This thread is a load of BS, but funny!


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 05:56 AM

LOL

 

This thread is a load of BS, but funny!

Yeah, isn't it? Bad enough for a person to blither on about the Unruh effect when they don't know Newton's Shell Theorem, or why the CMBR is universal. But shovelling in an equation for the current in a diode, in the middle of a "paper" about cosmology, takes us to a whole new level of surreality - knocks Dubbelsox into a cocked hat.  :winknudge:

 

Still, as so often, I learn from some of these madhouse threads. Now I know what the Unruh Effect is and why it is so tiny as to be negligible for most purposes (with a freebie in the form of the Shockley Diode equation, though I don't think I'll remember that one as electronics is not my scene).  

 

Time for Flummoxed to put on his biological protection suit and delve into the pit again, for more nuggets?  


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 06:24 AM

Its the Unruh Hawking effect, they both discovered it, didnt they? :) Black body radiation. 

No I don't think so. Seems it is also known as the Fulling Davies Unruh effect. But not Hawking, so far as I can see. 

https://en.wikipedia...ki/Unruh_effect

 

I'm intrigued as to how they propose to measure it experimentally. The article speaks of accelerations of the order of 10²⁶ m/sec². 



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:37 AM

Hawking discovered the application of Bogliubov transformations to black holes as a form of radiation, which is constructed from a gravitational potential producing creation and annihilation operators.


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:39 AM

Needless to say, Unruh radiation also uses such transformations.



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:17 AM

The theory is put here for review, if you don't like it then why not say so and move on? The theory has proper units and calculates precise enough to be considered. It uses established ideas.


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:32 AM

The theory is put here for review, if you don't like it then why not say so and move on? The theory has proper units and calculates precise enough to be considered. It uses established ideas.

....from electronics..... 



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:51 AM

....from electronics..... 

 

No, it is black hole physics. With some black body supposition.



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:47 AM

No I don't think so. Seems it is also known as the Fulling Davies Unruh effect. But not Hawking, so far as I can see. 

https://en.wikipedia...ki/Unruh_effect

 

I'm intrigued as to how they propose to measure it experimentally. The article speaks of accelerations of the order of 10²⁶ m/sec². 

 

Well, that’s just slow as molasses compared to Planck acceleration: 5.67 x 10^50 g

 

I’m more intrigued to learn how the electron makes use of mechanical advantage. Gears? levers? what?



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:48 AM

It is fun to debate, by putting forward a theory, even a bad one, people can learn from it. 

 

I agree. Please carry on!



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:54 AM

Well, that’s just slow as molasses compared to Planck acceleration: 5.67 x 10^50 g

 

I’m more intrigued to learn how the electron makes use of mechanical advantage. Gears? levers? what?

 

Mostly the mechanical advantage is Planck length squared for the black hole instead of Unruh temp energy, which relates to entropy. I'm still examining that. But I can calculate the mass and electric field of the electron, proton and neutron. But yes I'm still working out ideas to derive the theory correctly.



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:14 AM

Well, that’s just slow as molasses compared to Planck acceleration: 5.67 x 10^50 g

 

I’m more intrigued to learn how the electron makes use of mechanical advantage. Gears? levers? what?

These Planck times, distances and accelerations are not physical things though. They are just theoretical extremes, beyond which current models cease to define the quantities concerned. 



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 01:23 PM

Edit 

 

 

 

You might at some stage have to accept you may be wrong. How long have you been working out your ideas ? 

 

a few weeks. It's just a theory I'm tossing around. I thought it might be interesting.



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Posted 01 February 2019 - 01:23 AM

It was more interesting than a lot of the other more :) insane theories being kicked about at the time.

 

Did you learn anything new? 

 

Yes, I'm learning about information theory and the Bekenstein bound. I also learned about black bodies and photon gases.





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