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#69 exchemist

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:56 AM

I totally agree that correlation is not causation. Even so, I found this interesting:

The Dow Jones Chart with the middle of a five day period at the start of the eclipse over the United States does correlate with the expected fall then rise of the index due to a suspected ‘eclipse effect’; (Aug 17 1030EDT (just before effect start) = 21,905, Aug 18 1000EDT = 21,675, (weekend period 19-20),  Aug21 1030EDT (effect at max, almost at the eclipse start) = 21,617, Aug22 1000EDT (effect over) = 21,812, Aug23 1030EDT = 21843.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dow+jones+chart&oq=dow+jones&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.15769j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This is absurd. 

 

Do you not realise what else has been going on? Trump's prevarications over Charlottesville, the resignation/dismissal of his business councils, his comments about closing down government if necessary to build his ridiculous wall, and so forth? 



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:35 PM

6. Stock market forecasting. During high sun spot activity the effect seems to encourage optimism, so markets rise, low sunspot activity seems to cause pessimism, so markets fall.

The various world financial falls are approximately in line with the low sun spot activity cycle of 10.9years

October 2018 Expected low sunspot activity start point. Unfortunately there are many variables and other factors to be taken into account for the knowledge to be useful.

With reference to 8 April 2017 post above, low sunspot activity seems to cause pessimism, so markets fall. The various world financial falls are approximately in line with the low sun spot activity start point of October 2018:

Ref: https://www.spacewea...ity/solar-cycle

There are many articles about world stock markets falling in October 2018:

Ref: https://edition.cnn....ober/index.html

Ref: https://www.marketwa...ears-2018-10-24

Ref: https://www.cnbc.com...ed-minutes.html

The Dow Jones all time high 26,828.39 Wed, 3 Oct 2018 fell dramatically from that date and is at 23,274.82 today 31 Dec 2018. FTSE 100 7,510.28 Wed, 3 Oct 2018 also fell dramatically from that date and is at 6,728.13 today 31Dec 2018. Nikkei  225 24,270.62 Tue, 2 Oct 2018 fell quickly from that date and is at Chart at 20,014.77 today 31 Dec 2018. The Hang Seng Index 27,788.52 Fri, 28 Sep 2018 fell quickly from that date and is at 25,845.70 today 31 Dec 2018. The Dax chart 12,435.59 Thu 27 Sep 2018 fell quickly from that date and is at 10,558.96 today 31 Dec 2018.

Ref:   https://www.google.c...jones chart

Ref: https://www.google.c...=FTSE 100 chart

Ref:https://www.google.c...kei 225 chart

Ref: https://www.google.c...ng market chart

Ref:  https://www.google.c...IBQ&q=dax chart

The high sun spot activity start point is more difficult to predict than the low, as it tends have a sharper curve but could be in about 13 months, at the beginning of February 2020. It will be interesting to see any if there is any correlation with the world stock markets finally starting to steadily rise again at this time, although I must admit that this all seems a bit like weather forecasting, with too many variables to be accurate.



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Posted 31 December 2018 - 04:44 PM

With reference to 8 April 2017 post above, low sunspot activity seems to cause pessimism, so markets fall. The various world financial falls are approximately in line with the low sun spot activity start point of October 2018:

Ref: https://www.spacewea...ity/solar-cycle

There are many articles about world stock markets falling in October 2018:

Ref: https://edition.cnn....ober/index.html

Ref: https://www.marketwa...ears-2018-10-24

Ref: https://www.cnbc.com...ed-minutes.html

The Dow Jones all time high 26,828.39 Wed, 3 Oct 2018 fell dramatically from that date and is at 23,274.82 today 31 Dec 2018. FTSE 100 7,510.28 Wed, 3 Oct 2018 also fell dramatically from that date and is at 6,728.13 today 31Dec 2018. Nikkei  225 24,270.62 Tue, 2 Oct 2018 fell quickly from that date and is at Chart at 20,014.77 today 31 Dec 2018. The Hang Seng Index 27,788.52 Fri, 28 Sep 2018 fell quickly from that date and is at 25,845.70 today 31 Dec 2018. The Dax chart 12,435.59 Thu 27 Sep 2018 fell quickly from that date and is at 10,558.96 today 31 Dec 2018.

Ref:   https://www.google.c...jones chart

Ref: https://www.google.c...=FTSE 100 chart

Ref:https://www.google.c...kei 225 chart

Ref: https://www.google.c...ng market chart

Ref:  https://www.google.c...IBQ&q=dax chart

The high sun spot activity start point is more difficult to predict than the low, as it tends have a sharper curve but could be in about 13 months, at the beginning of February 2020. It will be interesting to see any if there is any correlation with the world stock markets finally starting to steadily rise again at this time, although I must admit that this all seems a bit like weather forecasting, with too many variables to be accurate.

Bloody silly. 

 

Trump has started a trade war with China, he has lost 2 more people from his government, federal government is shut down due to his insistence on this ridiculous wall and most significantly perhaps, he is busy slagging off his own central bank governor. So all the signs point to bad times ahead.

 

So what you need to do now, obvs., is to show that Trump's erratic behaviour is caused by nothing other than.........sunspot activity! Brilliant!  



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Posted 01 January 2019 - 07:57 AM

...federal government is shut down due to his insistence on this ridiculous wall...

I'm starting to believe the rest of the world should all chip in to build a wall, no a dome (better safe than sorry) around the US to stop any of them from getting out!



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Posted 01 January 2019 - 02:27 PM

Astrology is the study of the movements and relative positions of celestial objects as a means of divining information about human affairs and terrestrial events. Astrology has been dated to at least the 2nd millennium BCE, and has its roots in calendrical systems used to predict seasonal shifts and to interpret celestial cycles as signs of divine communications. Many cultures have attached importance to astronomical events, and some—such as the Indians, Chinese, and Maya—developed...

 

The idea it's fiction, is un education at it's finest.

A Study is merely observation.


Edited by Orion, 01 January 2019 - 02:28 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:40 PM

I wonder if there is a subtle way in which the season you are born does affect you. A mother's health probably affects the unborn foetus, and her health in turn would be affected by the seasons. Carrying the child during the winter when people are often sick with flu/colds/other illness would affect the development of the child.

 

 

I thought this was rubbish but it appears there may be something in it, though not perhaps for the obvious reasons: http://www.nber.org/.../papers/w14573 

 

 

Let's try again: http://www.nber.org/papers/w14573

 

Seems to work this time. 

I just noticed these posts of 2016 which I think are interesting.  

Is this an example of noble intentions to promote further education, (also see the titles of other papers then downloaded), while testing even my view that astrology is not fiction; below are extracts (two short sections of text) from:

NBER WORKING PAPER SERIES SEASON OF BIRTH AND LATER OUTCOMES: OLD QUESTIONS, NEW ANSWERS Kasey Buckles Daniel M. Hungerman Working Paper 14573 http://www.nber.org/papers/w14573 NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH 1050 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 December 2008

‘We find that women giving birth in the winter look different from other women: they are younger, less educated, and less likely to be married.’

 

‘These studies overwhelmingly show that children born in the winter months (or in the first quarter of the year) have relatively low educational attainment, wages, and (using metrics such as Armed Forces Qualification Test scores) intellectual ability.’

 

© 2008 by Kasey Buckles and Daniel M. Hungerman. All rights reserved. Short sections of text, not to exceed two paragraphs, may be quoted without explicit permission provided that full credit, including © notice, is given to the source.

Published: Kasey S. Buckles & Daniel M. Hungerman, 2013. "Season of Birth and Later Outcomes: Old Questions, New Answers," The Review of Economics and Statistics, MIT Press, vol. 95(3), pages 711-724, July. citation courtesy of 

 

Users who downloaded this paper also downloaded* these:

Black, Devereux, and Salvanes

w13969 Too Young to Leave the Nest: The Effects of School Starting Age

Barua and Lang

w15236 School Entry, Educational Attainment and Quarter of Birth: A Cautionary Tale of LATE

Angrist and Krueger

w3572 Does Compulsory School Attendance Affect Schooling and Earnings?

Bound and Jaeger

w5835 On the Validity of Season of Birth as an Instrument in Wage Equations: A Comment on Angrist & Krueger's "Does Compulsory School Attendance Affect Scho

Bailey

w19493 Fifty Years of Family Planning: New Evidence on the Long-Run Effects of Increasing Access to Contraception



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:16 AM

I just noticed these posts of 2016 which I think are interesting.  

Is this an example of noble intentions to promote further education, (also see the titles of other papers then downloaded), while testing even my view that astrology is not fiction; below are extracts (two short sections of text) from:

NBER WORKING PAPER SERIES SEASON OF BIRTH AND LATER OUTCOMES: OLD QUESTIONS, NEW ANSWERS Kasey Buckles Daniel M. Hungerman Working Paper 14573 http://www.nber.org/papers/w14573 NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH 1050 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02138 December 2008

‘We find that women giving birth in the winter look different from other women: they are younger, less educated, and less likely to be married.’

 

‘These studies overwhelmingly show that children born in the winter months (or in the first quarter of the year) have relatively low educational attainment, wages, and (using metrics such as Armed Forces Qualification Test scores) intellectual ability.’

 

© 2008 by Kasey Buckles and Daniel M. Hungerman. All rights reserved. Short sections of text, not to exceed two paragraphs, may be quoted without explicit permission provided that full credit, including © notice, is given to the source.

Published: Kasey S. Buckles & Daniel M. Hungerman, 2013. "Season of Birth and Later Outcomes: Old Questions, New Answers," The Review of Economics and Statistics, MIT Press, vol. 95(3), pages 711-724, July. citation courtesy of 

 

Users who downloaded this paper also downloaded* these:

Black, Devereux, and Salvanes

w13969 Too Young to Leave the Nest: The Effects of School Starting Age

Barua and Lang

w15236 School Entry, Educational Attainment and Quarter of Birth: A Cautionary Tale of LATE

Angrist and Krueger

w3572 Does Compulsory School Attendance Affect Schooling and Earnings?

Bound and Jaeger

w5835 On the Validity of Season of Birth as an Instrument in Wage Equations: A Comment on Angrist & Krueger's "Does Compulsory School Attendance Affect Scho

Bailey

w19493 Fifty Years of Family Planning: New Evidence on the Long-Run Effects of Increasing Access to Contraception

None of this has anything to do with astrology, though. It is simply observing that the season of the year may correlate with various things, suggesting some kind of cause and effect. 



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Posted 04 January 2019 - 07:15 AM

None of this has anything to do with astrology, though. It is simply observing that the season of the year may correlate with various things, suggesting some kind of cause and effect. 

 

True. Thank you for correcting me; indeed, it was not astrology.



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Posted 04 January 2019 - 07:53 AM

None of this has anything to do with astrology, though. It is simply observing that the season of the year may correlate with various things, suggesting some kind of cause and effect. 

I think that is true astrology, not the ridiculous fortune telling crap that's often called astrology. Not sure but I heard the real thing is very different.