ronthepon Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I thought the situation was that people either believe in god or they dont(?) For those who believe in god, god is perfect, omniscient, etc, so everything god did must by definition have been "best", whereas for those who dont believe in god, god is by definition incapable of doing anything. It doesn't seem to me that there is anything to conjecture about or discuss.Perhaps we can get around this little conceptual hurdle by defining god as:A hypothetical being who has the ability to manipulate scientific laws at will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ughaibu Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Another chatty, social thread, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panjandrum Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 If you were God, why would you initiate Creation?What would be your highest expectation?If you can determine that goal, how would you go about achieving it in practice? I would create the universe to have things to recognise my power, and to worship me. I would expect complete obeidience and would punish any who transgress with endless torment. As to how I would go about it, I think twould be fun to play with my creations, by revealing what I want from them in a multitude of conflicting and ambiguos revelations. That way, I would be assured of an endless supply to torment for failing to worship me correctly, as well as having a world filled with drama and lulz to keep me entertained. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I think twould be fun to play with my creations, by revealing what I want from them in a multitude of conflicting and ambiguos revelations. That way, I would be assured of an endless supply to torment for failing to worship me correctly, as well as having a world filled with drama and lulz to keep me entertained. Let me just offer one comment on this expose of your expressed character Pan..........I'm very thankful that you are not God!!!...............Infy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Let me just offer one comment on this expose of your expressed character Pan..........I'm very thankful that you are not God!!!...............InfyHeh! Heh! Me too. But we humans have been bound by our limits, and it's a natural thing to want to be powerful! However, anybody will ultimately get bored of all the excess power. If not in 100 years, then in 100,000 years. Then it will indeed be used the way we want god to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnetMan Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Bunch of unruly Gods here. Just now you will throwing lightening bolts around.Back to the drawing board.So you are God and its 10 Million B.C.And Mother Earth is fertile and has given birth to 3 billion specie of organic creatures. Her Garden is bountiful and beautiful.So you decide that one specie among the 3 billion is to be your chosen son.Why do you select from among the primates and none other?What is your end goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panjandrum Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Intelligence. No point having worshippers if they dont understand what theyre doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Intelligence. No point having worshippers if they dont understand what theyre doing.Is it nessecary that a god be worshipped?Does a god lose any of his godliness if he has a population that is not aware of his existence? You want to play god?Play SimCity.Play Age of empiresPlay Age of Mythology.Play Populous, the beginning.There are many many games out there which simulate the thing. In all those cases, you will realise, the fun of being god is not in having your people worship you. The fun is in keeping them happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 If I was God man would have no concept of my existance, there would be no religion and no worship.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 If I was God man would have no concept of my existance, there would be no religion and no worship....Actually, if there is a god, he is hiding it very well, I have never seen definite proof of him. It was us humans who dreamed up of the concepts of religion and all, when we were faced with inexplicable phenomena in the olden times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 If I were God, I would suggest the best behaviors to humanity, but then allow them the free will to decide. Then it will be they who bring about their own rewards and/or consequences. Poetic justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panjandrum Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Is it nessecary that a god be worshipped?Does a god lose any of his godliness if he has a population that is not aware of his existence? Necessary? If I were god, yes it would be. Why would I waste my time making a bunch of creatures if they didnt even bow down before me in fear? What would be the point? To make them happy? Why bother if theyre just my creations? Surely my happiness is all that would matter to me were I God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Necessary? If I were god, yes it would be. Why would I waste my time making a bunch of creatures if they didnt even bow down before me in fear? What would be the point? To make them happy? Why bother if theyre just my creations? Surely my happiness is all that would matter to me were I God.I would most certainly die before I would worship such a self-serving, egotistical tyrant as this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panjandrum Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 I would most certainly die before I would worship such a self-serving, egotistical tyrant as this.... Such could be arranged. :) ronthepon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Such could be arranged. :)But why? Wouldn't such a hateful God enjoy torturing me for eternity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Necessary? If I were god, yes it would be. Why would I waste my time making a bunch of creatures if they didnt even bow down before me in fear? What would be the point? To make them happy? Why bother if theyre just my creations? Surely my happiness is all that would matter to me were I God.Boy, your thinking process in this thread is rather blunt! IF there were a god, he would not nessecarily have the human trait of emotion, and thus happiness. Our emotions, as we can verify with some effort, are very ungodly propeties. As though, in anger (the brief madness) we are no longer our initial self. And if god did have emotions, he would also get bored of being worshipped by peices of live meat. And such an egoistic god is nothing more than a ultrapowerful dictator, or a king, or something of that sort.We've had enough of that in our history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panjandrum Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 The question is if _I_ were god, not what some other deity would do or want. C1ay, yes of course I would torment you for all eternity. But I wouldnt be offended if you chose to die rather than to worship me. Tis your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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