nemo Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Individual dollars may be tracked, but at the range you would need to track the bill with its mag strip, you'd be much better off following the person instead. At the moment, if I lose a credit card or some other piece of information, a phone call is generally all it would take for me to get that card deactivated. If you have a chip in your arm that I can replicate / imitate, similar to some of the more popular cell phone tricks in use today, how long would it take to get a new implant? If I've stolen your identity through imitation of this chip, is it possible that you wouldn't (through lack of a valid authentication mechanism) have the authority to stop me, since I am now you and you are no longer anyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindagarrette Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Individual dollars may be tracked, but at the range you would need to track the bill with its mag strip, you'd be much better off following the person instead. At the moment, if I lose a credit card or some other piece of information, a phone call is generally all it would take for me to get that card deactivated. If you have a chip in your arm that I can replicate / imitate, similar to some of the more popular cell phone tricks in use today, how long would it take to get a new implant? If I've stolen your identity through imitation of this chip, is it possible that you wouldn't (through lack of a valid authentication mechanism) have the authority to stop me, since I am now you and you are no longer anyone... Very good point. Replicating or removing and reusing someone's chip might not be much of a challenge to a thief or terrorist. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Another one of hundreds of reasons these things should not be used! Dont get me wrong, RFID is a great thing to ease warehousing (I work in one, trust me, its a pain), you can walk in, and everything is tagged, so you know exactly how many and where the widgets are, but stretching RFID to everyday people is a little pushing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishteacher73 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 When I was speaking of tracking US currency, I was speaking in terms of transactions, not pesonally.. We can follow the flow of a specific bill. In the future I feel this will be used probably as evideince (i.e. just as "marked" bills are used to follow the transactions in drug deals). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 That's what was throwing me off all this time, what you described above is what i know, but i didnt think that they could track individual bills via a GPS or something...Although if someone has an ingeneous idea of insetring RFID chips in cash, I will start coming up with ways to disable them, clear them or bottom line extract them so no government can track me....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 That's what was throwing me off all this time, what you described above is what i know, but i didnt think that they could track individual bills via a GPS or something...Although if someone has an ingeneous idea of insetring RFID chips in cash, I will start coming up with ways to disable them, clear them or bottom line extract them so no government can track me....... The same intellect that contrives an unbreakable code, will eventually decipher it. alexander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 nicely said infamous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 nicely said infamous Thank you alexander for that vote of confidence, I'll also commend you for always posting very intelligent and coherent remarks. Have a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Thanks! I am dissapointed in that Krylen was not able to post here, some weird privoxy/tor/VBulletin error but i'll get on his nerves to spark a new discussion, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishEyes Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Although if someone has an ingeneous idea of insetring RFID chips in cash, I will start coming up with ways to disable them, clear them or bottom line extract them so no government can track me....... hey, alex, i want you to check out the site I posted for Mr. Greene... http://www.inkode.comthe technology is already readily available, but not using chips. they can actually use RFID antennas. His business card is kinda cool, one side is typical name/number, etc... the other side is one of those circles with the lines through it, that says "no chip inside", with a picture of what i'm guessing is an RFID chip. i checked the net to see what sort of stuff was out there, and i don't know that you would be able to tell if there were antennas in your bills or not. the reason why they are not currently in use seems more politically based, driven by economics, buthopefully Mr. Greene will drop in and share a bit as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 I dont doubt it Irish, I will however move somewhere if money was starting to use RFID, I think it is wrong, i hope it wont get implemented... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAHD Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Try putting a US Bil $20 in the microvave for 10 seconds, an area directly above the eye on the bill will burn. thisarea does not change bill-bill. Saw that on some site a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishEyes Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Saw that on some site a while back.Actually, I think it was THIS site. I can remember the same discussion. 10 rep points to anyone that can find that thread and post the link here within the next 24 hours... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Yeah, you know, i have better ways of wasting $20 bills than putting them in microwaives and burning them...as to why that is happening, i beleive that microwaives act really well on water, fats and sugars, inks, especially home or special made can contain succhardies and glycoproteins from gum arabic which is commonly used in home-made ink for viscosity, it doesnt have to be on the entire bill, but it could be one of the protection things, because i think it will be pretty easy to trace where the paint comed from by these proteins. Again I'm just guessing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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