Unification of North America

[alxian]

long overdue?

 

the US is a rather large country, but canada is larger, the US is expanding its population such that eventually they will need to expand with nowhere really to go.

 

politically also it would shut the door to terrorism. canada it is no secret is an open door to the US. merging the two countries would create a far more secure nation.

 

some american states change into provinces and former canadian provinces to states?

 

i think ontario and new hampshire might switch.

[infamous]

long overdue?

 

the US is a rather large country, but canada is larger, the US is expanding its population such that eventually they will need to expand with nowhere really to go.

 

politically also it would shut the door to terrorism. canada it is no secret is an open door to the US. merging the two countries would create a far more secure nation.

 

some american states change into provinces and former canadian provinces to states?

 

i think ontario and new hampshire might switch.

I'm not so sure that this would be a good idea. When you look at some of the divisiveness we have to deal with already, not to mention the fact that I don't think the average Canadian would want to be annexed into the US. No, we have enough problems down here in the lower 48 without creating an even greater problem up north. I mean, look at the forecasted problems we may face with Social Security, do we really want to add all those Canadians to this already under funded program?

[OpenMind5]

I Agree...to join the to nations doesn't seem right at all. The only way to satisfy our growing pop. would not be to expand the country...thats just not ethical or feasible. I believe the only way is to build up. Not out.

 

Op5

[Buffy]

I'm waiting to hear the loud guffaws from GAHD up in Winterpeg. I think that the folks in the English-speaking parts of Canada would go for this, but only if the US was willing to become a "Territorial Possession" with a single representative and vote in the Canadian Parliament. The Quebecois of course would have nothing to do with it unless they could become independent as part of the deal but have a large subsidy paid to their government for "reparations."

 

Now what I really wanted to respond to was this:

the US is expanding its population such that eventually they will need to expand with nowhere really to go.

Uh, have you been to Wyoming? Or Montana? Or New Mexico? Or just about any place west of the Missouri and east of the Sierra/Cascade range? There's nothing out there folks! And as GAHD will be more than happy to tell you, its a LOT more hospitible weather than Nunavut or the Northwest Territories....

 

Moreover, the Republican Party simply could not stand the huge increase in the number of "wacko liberals" into the voter base, unless converse of what I describe above, Canada is let in with the status of Puerto Rico, say having one house seat to represent *all* of the Canadian provinces....

 

Cheers,

Buffy

[alxian]

ok, so "eventually" in that case would mean a few hundred years...

 

thats what i was leaning toward

 

not one representative for either country, but a unified governemnt with 60-65 reps, one for every state, territory and province. parliament hill and the white house in the middle of the pentagram can be forgotten.

 

i suppose picking a place along the old border would be the only way to satisfy some, but the pooliticians more than likely will appreciate the warmer weather of a more souternly located capital of north america.

 

*fires up google earth... moves it over to the TV..

 

good candidates could be new york of course, atlanta georgia, indianapolis indiana, detroit michigan...

 

*wishes GE had textured buildings.

[infamous]

 

Now what I really wanted to respond to was this:

Uh, have you been to Wyoming? Or Montana? Or New Mexico? Or just about any place west of the Missouri and east of the Sierra/Cascade range? There's nothing out there folks!

I was just thinking a similar thought Buffy, I'm from Missouri and I can tell you first hand, when you travel west of KC, there just ain't much out there to see.

 

Moreover, the Republican Party simply could not stand the huge increase in the number of "wacko liberals" into the voter base, unless converse of what I describe above, Canada is let in with the status of Puerto Rico, say having one house seat to represent *all* of the Canadian provinces....

Very good point Buffy. How did such a pretty gril get to be so very smart??????????

 

Cheers,

Buffy

[alxian]

Very good point Buffy. How did such a pretty gril get to be so very smart??????????

 

 

no better excuse for cloning IMO...

 

but of course i meant they are all that smart if you give 'em a listen....

[GAHD]

Moreover, the Republican Party simply could not stand the huge increase in the number of "wacko liberals" into the voter base,

'Huge' increase? NYC is pritty much equal to the entire population of Canada last I heard.

 

But seriously, there is a reason for that: How many of you think -40 C is cold? That's an average winter for me, and that's nowhere near what the land of 6-month winter sees.

 

I seriously had to take a minute and relax before I could respond to this thread: my knee-jerk reation to Canada unifying with the states is: the day I di. Most Canadians will tell you the same. No offence intended, but the mere though of being associated with the atrocities the U.S.A. has incited brings my blood to a boil. And the idea of how low our average IQ would drop makes my stomach upset.

 

At the same time if the states each annexed into Canada, one or two at atime overthe course of acentry, and Texas got nuked before it did aswell, then we might have an idea. I wouldn't mind having Hawaii as a Province/Territory. :lol:

[Dundasbro]

:lol: Let's just stop and think for a second... Do you think that either the Canadians or the Americans want anything to do with each other? Let alone become one? Don't forget our favorite American motto "Blame Canada" (I'm Australian and have nothing against Canada btw)

[justforfun]

I Agree...to join the to nations doesn't seem right at all. The only way to satisfy our growing pop. would not be to expand the country...thats just not ethical or feasible. I believe the only way is to build up. Not out.

 

Op5

I think the US needs to reassure the rest of the world that we aren't anxious to be messing with national boundaries. And how about building down rather than up. Underground housing has many advantages over aboveground, especially if the weather is going to ... intensify.

[Buffy]

'Huge' increase? NYC is pritty much equal to the entire population of Canada last I heard.

I know, but that would have put Gore or Kerry into the White House in either of the last two elections....that's "huge" to a Machiavellian political operative... :lol:

 

Cheers,

Buffy

[alxian]

very ture, if the atmosphere keeps warming and absorbing water then perhaps it would be in the US' best interest to defray some of its responsibilities to canada, we can take over health and education while the former US handles the army.

 

weather will boil over and perhaps tornado alley with become a wrecked swath of land, with disturbances becoming more regular, shattering records and hurricains also and the rise in number and power the US will have its hands full constantly rebuilding. some people in the alley may love to move out of that death trap once the wind starts to blow really hard really regularly.

 

and yeah -40 below zero celsius is horrible, and having only 8 real weeks of nice weather a year is the pits, but its not like unifying the nations will cause those weather paterns to move...

[UncleAl]

some american states change into provinces and former canadian provinces to states?

Have you ever lived in Canukistan? After the American Revolutionary War we expelled most of our cowards, treasonous bastards, and French northeast. They bred. The middle of the Great Dank North, where some fool drained Lake Agassiz after the past Ice Age and let 38 species of mosquitoes out, is Crapitoba. If you do not speak Russian - the area was abundantly populated by religious nutcases even the Russians would not tolerate turn of the past century - stay out of Crapitoba.

 

British Columbia would make a nice acquisition as a corridor to Alaska and 1000+ miles of condo-begging temperate climate shoreline. Bear in mind that the most Conservative Right Wing BC fanatics are still to the political Left of Ioseb Dzughashvili (Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин ).

[alxian]

yes i am a proud canukistani

[dirty.deeds]

Sorry for this but i couldn't resist... LOL.... :eek_big:

 

Memorandum

 

TO: The Citizens of the United States of America

RE: Revocation of your Independence

 

In the light of your failure to elect a proper President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy much. Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

 

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee' and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

 

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".

 

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents? Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

 

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly? or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

 

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

 

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full Kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

 

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "Sh*t". You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

 

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

 

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

 

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French; they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

 

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnat's Piss", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Gnat's Piss". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

 

13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it).

 

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

 

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

 

16. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776.

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

[alxian]

oh this may be worth the read..

 

sits back, peels eyelids

 

well worth it, even the nuking k-bec, just give me enough time to pack and a little warning, i've always wanted to move to san diego.

 

i think the NSA killed JFK

[Dundasbro]

Time to fill out my vegetable peeler form again...