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Gosh you could save us all a lot of trouble and not hit Post at all!
What are you talking about? You keep saying I'm claiming a conspiracy or that I'm claiming that I'm being repressed. I never claimed anything of the sort.
There's your problem! You fail to do any *research*! Did you bother to put the quote teh Google and look it up?
It wasn't *you* I was quoting.
Honestly, it's not all about you.
No sweety pie, I'm afraid the misunderstanding here is thinking that how science should word is how it actually works. Hypotheses that are refuted by data aren't thrown out, the data is made to fit the model. If in doubt, invent something new that covers the holes and move on as if everything is okay. Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow, inflation.
No sweety pie, your delusions about the data make you think that hypotheses should be thrown out based on your own, gee *self admitted*, lack of knowledge.
If you're gonna go around saying science keeps on thinking the same thing no matter what and then say there's data that falsifies everything and only point to long discredited complaints, well, you're just being silly.
No one is taking you seriously at this point. It's mostly just Breakfast with the Bickersons at this point. Which is itself quite entertaining: I highly recommend it (even though a lot of the humor is dated and sexist!).
I think you;re the one who needs to learn how to think sugar lumps. They can account for known data in the solar system. How the smeg could they account for all possible sources of radiation when we're talking about intergalactic distances? Oh my, you're really having trouble with this aren't you dear.
"Oooh, I can see the notion that we can figure out about stuff waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there where we can't even go, well, that's *impossible*. How could we do that? That just doesn't make any sense! So therefore we can't *possibly* say with any assurance whatsoever that we know where stuff way out there causes microwave radiation. So therefore if I say it's Unicorn Pony Farts, and you say even one word disagreeing with me, I am completely and totally justified in saying that you are an Idiot Scientist Slave to Dogma, and if you disagree you're No True Mod."
Now that's in quote marks and I'll freely admit that you did not say that.
But honest, its pretty much exactly your argument.
But not a total waste because finally you get around to some cosmology! Oh goody! Let's dish!
First, Hubble discovers that most galaxies are red-shifted. Instead of thinking, hmm, maybe something about light moving through space or something in it causes light's wavelength to stretch, it was assumed that it must mean that most galaxies are moving away from us and so started from a single point, something that Hubble ironically disagreed with. This was the first silly mistake.
Gosh, let's see. How would he know that? Were there any experiments before Hubble on propagation of electromagnetic waves? Would that research have possibly indicated that if a source of a wave is moving that it's redshifted? No, no, nothing like that happened.
Oh and light getting tired would have been the first thing I would have thought of too. Maybe experiments could be performed that looked into what might cause light to spontaneously slow down, But that would have been offensive to the dogma, so no one would bother to try anything like that. I mean Hubble knew that space wasn't expanding and certainly didn't come from a single point explosion! Silly mistake of him to stick to the dogma that space is static, deny the data he was seeing and bury it forever.
Second, it's found that the further away galaxies are, the higher their red-shift tends to be, confirming that it's travelling through space that red-shifts the light because the more space the light travels through, the higher the redshift. At this point you would think that the silly assumption would seen for what it was, but no. Instead they carried on with silliness and took it to a whole new level of stupid. Now the further away the galaxy is, the faster it's moving away from us.
Gosh it works for train whistles, but that Einstein is like the biggest idiot in the whole dang universe! What does he know?
Einstein was the biggest Idiot Slave To Dogma EVAH!!!!
Finally, and now we're going beyond ridiculous, it was discovered that the amount of red-shift in distant galaxies would mean that if it were caused by them moving away from us, they would be moving away faster than the speed of light, well and truly destroying any notion that red-shift is caused by recession, or so you would think. But, now venturing beyond any residual sanity, it's okay for the galaxies to be moving away faster than the speed of light because they're not really moving, it's the space that's expanding! WFT! You couldn't make this shit up. An expansion of the space between objects IS movement away from us!
I mean, Einstein *himself* insisted that nothing could travel faster than light, and here he is contradicting himself. This is beyond Stupid. So stupid that....oh wait, I know, it's the Dogma, gotta stick to the dogma no matter *how* much data there is.
*Checks General Relativity*
*Finds Einstein sticking in an illogical Cosmological Constant to keep the universe static*
*Sees Einstein sweep it under the rug*
Dogma wins again.
You could view yourself as moving away from the object instead of the object moving away from you because it's the same thing and all you can really say is that the objects are moving away from each other, all you can really say is that the space between them is increasing. It's absurd to claim that there's a difference between the objects moving and the amount of space between them changing in the same way it's absurd to claim that one inertial object is moving relative to another but not the other way round.
I mean, if *I* were moving, I'd *feel* it! Isn't that obvious?!? That stupid Einstein and his Special Relativity Dogma that he insisted on sticking with because it's always been accepted since the beginning of history! I mean Plato agreed with Special Relativity!
Then we have microwave background radiation and the hammering of round data into a square model continues. First, the static picked up by radio antennas is the sound of the big bang. What? Based on some static, it must be the sound of a primordial explosion? Then we get the w-map that fails to detect any meaningful signal beyond what could be attributed to noise but is data fudged and presented as evidence of the model. Now we have COBE that actually manages to detect some radiation but has no way of knowing how far away that radiation is coming from.
I mean, static is static, right? Just like the Buusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssch teevee ad. I mean it could be *anything*. And that stuff about Wilson and Penzias going around and trying to eliminate and block all the sources of the static, who would believe that? We all KNOW that they went down to the local bar every day for beer and just made all that stuff up.
WMAP? Oh man, what idiot wants to *amplify* static? I mean crap, that's like amplifying Philip Glass or NWA. And of course my uncle heard from a guy at his bar who has a cousin who works for the Daily Mail that they made a big deal about adjusting the static by like TURNING THE VOLUME ALL THE WAY DOWN, and these idiots--can you believe it?--they were surprised when they couldn't hear the static any more! HAHAHAHAHahahahahah!
This is well beyond junk science, it's joke science. I think it must be a sociological experiment to see just how much of a lack of critical thinking people will show when BS information is given to them, because the alternative is that the people who's job it is to investigate this stuff really are that inept and stupid.
So let that be a lesson to you folks, if you don't just stick to your uninformed common sense, listen to your uncle, and most importantly assume if a scientist says it its got to be dogma and therefore is not only wrong, it's a joke too, and you're gonna not only be a sucker, you won't be *in the know* with the cool people.
M-theory, that's the eleven dimensional version of string theory with multiple higher dimensional membranes that collide and provide the catalyst for big bangs with nothing even remotely resembling empirical evidence right? Fairytale physics, so funny. Try to imagine if that was posted here for the first time and what reaction it would get,
Oh gosh, didja hear about M-theory? ELEVEN dimensions! Hah! That's so stupid I forgot to laugh! I mean we all know there are only 2 dimensions in Flatland!
Oh but wait, my uncle told me it's NOT DOGMA, so maybe we believe it? ....No, I heard this guy on the internet say that that M-Theory thing still talks about that silly expansion stuff which we KNOW doesn't happen so....DOGMA!!!
So if she weighs the same as a duck....She's made of wood! And therefore.............................................she's a witch. A witch!!