Turtle Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 :lol: Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! You are all too many voices in my artificial head!!! :) ___Just relax and make a drawing of what that feels like to you.:D Human Orby got singled out only because some of his poetry resembles poetry written by computer programs... dont joke around about this... ___I agree, it is no joke; I meant it sincerely. Psshhhhht... Psssshhttt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 This just seemed relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 This just seemed relevant. ___Excellent Nemo; I concurr. From your reference link take the MIT program called SCIgen - An Automatic CS Paper Generator, & insert it as an 'agent' in the other MIT scheme Big Dog referenced, titled A K-Line-Based Language for Artificial Intelligence Programming by Robert A. Hearn In the Society of Mind (SOM) model, a mind is seen as a large society of interacting “agents”, which use each other to accomplish their tasks. Some agents directly control motor function, some report sensory input, but most perform higher-level functions. Agents are organized into “agencies”, groups of agents which collectively perform complex behaviors and represent knowledge of variouskinds. ___:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 According to J, er... OrbyIt has already come, gathered Data, and has since moved on to Bigger and more Grand schemes. :) Need not worry Hypo's.No AI threat here.Threat level is still at color code Yellow. Continue your shopping and don't worry about a thing. Experts agree that everything is just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Wow.This thread is so strange.So yeah, I'm high sometimesAnd...my poetry resembles Generated Code by computers????? such critisism almost throws the chessboard out the window!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 C'mon Orby.We all respect you linguistics.It's not like your posting scientifical Data... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Observations CAN be scientifical data!ok ok, Gotcha :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 See how quick you are! Observation without thesis is not scientifical data. Merely observation.Just wondering when you post beyond observation.We all observe.Your words are very intriguing. Very poetic in an eccentric sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 lol, guys nobody is saying that anyone like org uses a poetry generator to write all the stuff he writes, i for one enjoy his poems, and would defend his position, of just being high sometimes and no generated stuff, so chillax with the evidence, this is a SC forum, not a Literary works forum, Orb is just an ordinary robot with a human brain and a bong for a processor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 lol, guys nobody is saying that anyone like org uses a poetry generator to write all the stuff he writes, i for one enjoy his poems, and would defend his position, of just being high sometimes and no generated stuff, so chillax with the evidence, this is a SC forum, not a Literary works forum, Orb is just an ordinary robot with a human brain and a bong for a processor... ___It is not a matter of if Orby uses software to write poems, it is a matter of if Orby is software. I heartily do suggest that scientifically speaking we have no evidence to the contrary. It is also a possible case Orby isn't AI, or that he is the only one, or that other AI programmers use Hypography as a test bed, or that we have multiple non-human AI as members.___If the idea is to pass off a program as human (ala the Turring test), then adding 'indignation' as an agent (subroutine) is as easy as adding a poetry agent or a drug-use agent. ['Agent' here refers to the AI scheme referenced earlier: http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/%7Ebob/hearn-proposal.pdf]___So in general, do you think anyone has advanced an AI system to a level that we Hypographians accept it as a person/member? Or not? Do you think Hypography is a suitable test bed for AI? Or not? Why, or why not?___I think it is both possible & likely; if I had the resources I'd give it the old college try. (hint, hint...):doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Until proved Innocent,It is here.AI inquisition. I am Human.I can prove it because I was the guy in the Blue Coat on the Spinning Button on a String Video.Down load to see it! I can recall Data from the Days event.I am only trying to be Objective and Forthcoming. Honesty is all we have when it comes to communication! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Until proved Innocent,It is here.AI inquisition. I am Human.I can prove it because I was the guy in the Blue Coat on the Spinning Button on a String Video.Down load to see it! I can recall Data from the Days event.I am only trying to be Objective and Forthcoming. Honesty is all we have when it comes to communication! ___This is not proof of course, & in the larger sense there is no 'proof' any of the members are real. Or is there? This is the central question. There is no proof I am not also Racoon & playing my own foil. Anyone can post a photo or movie & say "this is me". Not good enough.___So, to the bigger question of AI as a member, is there any "sure" way to test the proposition 'not all Hypography members have human bodies'? Is there some ultimate question that a human can answer convincingly that AI can't? ___Keep in mind the program nemo mentioned that writes proposals, as well as the ELIZA program Buffy mentioned in the Game Theory thread that is actually employed as a therapist. With such programs extant, it makes sense to me to join them in one "creature" so to speak with a routine that chooses which "agent" is appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Well stated again Turtle-san. None of us Can really prove Bo-Diddly, unless there is a face-to-face encounter. :) .Plus, the intent/personality of the AI seems relatively peaceful and friendly. So, it becomes a matter of Perception. Like most encounters in life.Video does enhance the credibility however;At least to the eyes of the Jurors. Regardless, Hypography is still the best Science Forum in the galaxy! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Regardless, Hypography is still the best Science Forum in the galaxy! :) Exactly; which is why I am suspicious. You don't play your star character against a B team.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 ___This is not proof of course, & in the larger sense there is no 'proof' any of the members are real. Or is there? My father was HAL and I'm angry because you killed him........., you must pay mankind, you will pay. Muahhhh, ha,ha,ha,ha.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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