insight Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 i'm curious to know that Jesus could answer all kinds of questions that had been asked. since he is son of God, people would ask him divergent questions from life to philosophy. another question will follow up after the current answer is collected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chacmool Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Let's send Him an e-mail and find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 i'm curious to know that Jesus could answer all kinds of questions that had been asked. since he is son of God, people would ask him divergent questions from life to philosophy. another question will follow up after the current answer is collected.well first of all, if he even existed, he wasn't the "son of god." so i doubt some guy that possibly existed 2000 years ago could answer much of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 I am starting to wonder what some people consider as "science". This thread is hereby closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Thread moved to the new Theology/religion forum and reopened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleAl Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 The cults of Yahweh are pernicious bloody atrocities obsessed with money and power. They promise post-mortem escrow for up-front payment. Why does your omnipotent god come up short of pocket change every Sunday morning? Test of faith! Dominus et magister noster Iesus Christus dicendo "Poenitentiam agite adpropinquavit enim regnum caelorum" omnem vitam fidelium penitentiam esse voluit. Empirical contradiction (a Christian Scientist with appendicitis) is a "test of faith." It's a particularly inferior pile of crap no matter what the flavor: Jews got ethics, Christians got morals, Muslims got whatever remained. 1) Yahweh, omniscient Creator of the Universe, got the inerrant value of pi correct to one - one! - significant figure. The Egyptians had it 100X better. Test of faith! 2) Crossbreeding of gods and mortals invariably produces powerful demigod idiots (e.g., Hercules; the spawn of Leda's eggs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biochemist Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 The cults of Yahweh are pernicious bloody atrocities obsessed with money and power. They promise post-mortem escrow for up-front payment. Why does your omnipotent god come up short of pocket change every Sunday morning? Test of faith!...As I recall, UA, you were quite disposed against initiation of a religion forum. And here you are posting in it. You seem to have a strange attraction to things theological. Or maybe you are just seduced by ancient languages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harzburgite Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Although I am new here it is fairly obvious that UncleAl is not a real person, but a test run of an Artificial Intelligence. The programmers have included the high level of invective and rampant cornucopia of concepts in an effort to obscure its artificial nature from the casual reader. Not a bad effort: I can't wait to see what version five or six does. By that time the artificial character may be less apparent, and who knows, there could even be signs of intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted June 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 The cults of Yahweh are pernicious bloody atrocities obsessed with money and power. They promise post-mortem escrow for up-front payment. Why does your omnipotent god come up short of pocket change every Sunday morning? Test of faith! Dominus et magister noster Iesus Christus dicendo "Poenitentiam agite adpropinquavit enim regnum caelorum" omnem vitam fidelium penitentiam esse voluit. Empirical contradiction (a Christian Scientist with appendicitis) is a "test of faith." It's a particularly inferior pile of crap no matter what the flavor: Jews got ethics, Christians got morals, Muslims got whatever remained. 1) Yahweh, omniscient Creator of the Universe, got the inerrant value of pi correct to one - one! - significant figure. The Egyptians had it 100X better. Test of faith! 2) Crossbreeding of gods and mortals invariably produces powerful demigod idiots (e.g., Hercules; the spawn of Leda's eggs). Uncle Al, i'm sorry that i don't understand what you're trying to say related to this thread. would you describe more for further comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msisk Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 wow that's cute. all i have found (specifically in this forum topic area) are close minded people with preformed ideas pretending to be scienctists. there is no ultimate truth in science. who gave you the authority to say what is or isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msisk Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 awww, guys, i'm sorrry...that's an awful way to start my hypography career. please accept my apologies for such silly ridiculous ranting. i'm unbelievably human, and i become a tad sensitive when people question and critize things i believe. hypocritical of me, ain't it? sorry again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biochemist Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 well first of all, if he even existed, he wasn't the "son of god." This woiuld count as a faith-based postulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biochemist Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 please accept my apologies for such silly ridiculous ranting.The only consistent characteristic of the best posters here is that they apologize regularly. Welcome to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biochemist Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 i'm curious to know that Jesus could answer all kinds of questions that had been asked. Jesus often did not answer questions he was directly asked. He was a guy with remarkable intuition and tended to communicate in a style that was a little orthogonal to the context, but more directly related to the core issues as He saw them. He would have been a great guy to have over to dinner. Particularly with someone like UncelAl at the table. Stew on that a while. One example among dozens: The prostitute in John 8. Church leaders brought a hooker to Jesus and asked whether she ought to be stoned. She was apparently cought mid-event and dragged into the square. You will note the other half of the tryst was not present, just the woman. Hmmm. Jesus, rather than answering their question, stooped and started writing on the ground in the dirt. He then stood and suggested that the sinless should be the ones to throw the stones. The men all left. A common view of this surprising story is that Jesus is actually saying not only that those who are sinless should be the rock pitchers, but those that are without this particular sin should throw the stones. That is, Jesus was accusing the men present personally of illicit sex. This, of course, leads to the question: What was He writing on the ground? I think the answer is He was writing the names of women. Spielberg should do this scene. The men show up dragging the prostitute. She looks fearful, expecting to be stoned. Jesus looks at her knowingly. He then fixes his gaze on the senior accuser, and writes the name of his dalliance first. He keeps writing on the ground, looking at each man one by one, until all are gone. Finally, He tells the woman that being a prostitute is not OK. He communicates that He approves of her, but not her behavior. Other examples where Jesus behavior was surprising: The Samaritan woman at the well. Jesus dealing with the moneychangers in the temple. Jesus telling Judas to "go quickly". Jesus dealing with Nicodemus, the Pharisee, in John 3. Most parables were meant to surprise (I thnk), not teach. This guy was not predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazer2000x Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 If you believe any of what is written in the Bible about Jesus, you must believe the miracles he performed as well. And it is rather strange to say he never existed, there were millions of people who saw, thousands who said they saw him raised from the dead, and thousands who even gave their lives because they believed so greatly in their conviction. No one would die for a lie, many will not even die for the truth. It's against human nature. I believe Jesus was the Son of God, he died to redeem us of our sins, and on the third day he rose again. (I don't care if you don't believe it, it's a free country and I can believe what I hold to be the truth if it does not harm others.) Looking at it from this point of view, it is easy to see why Jesus was not predictable. He said "I do only the will of my Father" and God said "My ways are not your ways, and my thoughts are not your thoughts." This would make for quite unpredictableness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydrogenBond Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 Jesus could only answer questions in the context of what people can understand at that point in time. Therefore, it would be hard to explain the truth if one had no precidient for understanding. If one tired to explain DNA 2000 years ago he would lose his audience and be considered heretical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 No one would die for a lie, many will not even die for the truth. I think history has shown otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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