Ps2Huang Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 I need something, is it called alcohol or what, to preserve my beetle specimens. Where can I buy it in American stores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted May 29, 2005 Report Share Posted May 29, 2005 Ethanol is available from your local liquor store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 what does ethanol do? preserve organisms? how....? do you bathe the organism in it, or just apply the ethonal to the surface of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishteacher73 Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 It get it drunk so it doesn't care if it rotts.... :naughty: The best way to preseve insect species is to keep them in the freezer for a few weeks... That will dry them out so you can mount them. If you want to keep them in a presevative you can usually order formalin through just about any scientic supplier as well. Ethanol isn't the best because it will hydrate over time and loose its preservative properties. Formalin is a bit nasty too, it is carcinogenic and smells, but is usually the liquid of choice for preserving specimens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 It get it drunk so it doesn't care if it rotts.... :naughty: The best way to preseve insect species is to keep them in the freezer for a few weeks... That will dry them out so you can mount them. If you want to keep them in a presevative you can usually order formalin through just about any scientic supplier as well. Ethanol isn't the best because it will hydrate over time and loose its preservative properties. Formalin is a bit nasty too, it is carcinogenic and smells, but is usually the liquid of choice for preserving specimens.Yeah, I actually left out formaldehyde on purpose because of the toxicity. IMO, it's really for experienced handlers. The only non formaldehyde solution that came to mind was ethanol. It works OK for bugs and stuff but then again, we really don't know what he trying to preserve. If it's bigger than a couple of inches in cross section even a formaldehyde application would need to be injected in the deeper tissues since it will only soak in about an inch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ps2Huang Posted May 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Actually, I do know some liquid store around some gas stations. Do you think they might sell those alcohol tat will preserve specimens? If I go into that store, what shall I tell for getting that thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 walk into the store and go to the counter.politely ask the attendent if his/her store carries ethanol (or your choice of preservative)if he/she answers yes, purchase.if he/she answer no, ask for a bottle of crown royal.hope this helps! GAHD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAHD Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 Or Bombay london dry gin, that'll be about as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted May 30, 2005 Report Share Posted May 30, 2005 yes, probably better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishteacher73 Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 The joy of collecting...getting pickled with your specimens.... And they say scientist are boring...we just like to party with a slightly more sedated crowd.... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I'm no biologist so maybe someone could correct me if I wrong about this but, wouldn't plain old rubbing alcohol, isopropyl by another name, work just as well? And it can be purchased by anyone at the supermarket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 HRRRRMMMMMMMMM??????????? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 ___Rubbing alchohol comes in different solutions, eg. 70%, 90%, etc. I'm no chemist, but it is very different than ethanol inasmuch as it's poison.___Not all states sell ethanol in their liquor stores. Here in Washinton they don't, but across the river (Columbia) in Oregon they do; the brand name is Everclear. Everclear is 200 proof, ie 100% ethanol. Any drinking alchohol under 200 proof contains water as well as inumerable other compounds depending on the type. Vodka is distilled from potatoes, rum from sugar cane, whiskey from grains, etc. Add to that aging in wooden barrels which adds compounds.___As Fishteacher points out, drying is common, & freeze drying even better. How have you been processing them Huang? Are they large beetles or small? My favorite local beetle here in the Pacific NW is the Stag Beetle; big gnarly mandibles & wing spans of up to 6"! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Researcher88 Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 As ethanol is hard to obtain in pure high concentrations in the market, isopropyl alcohol is perfectly safe to use, not to drink! A common 70% isopropyl alcohol should be sold in the chemist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learnin to learn Posted July 29, 2005 Report Share Posted July 29, 2005 walk into the store and go to the counter.politely ask the attendent if his/her store carries ethanol (or your choice of preservative)if he/she answers yes, purchase.if he/she answer no, ask for a bottle of crown royal.hope this helps! :) LOL ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWright Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I am so glad I found this thread! This will help keep my dates around so much longer! Thank you a thousand times over! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learnin to learn Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 As ethanol is hard to obtain in pure high concentrations in the market, isopropyl alcohol is perfectly safe to use, not to drink! A common 70% isopropyl alcohol should be sold in the chemist. Only one problem I am not old enough =[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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