Mercedes Benzene Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Epiphyllum is a genus of epiphytic succulents native to Mexico/Central America. They are known for their broad, flat leaves and their large flowers, which often bloom for only one day. Many people collect them, trading with other collectors and breeding hybrids (of which there are approximately 20,000 registered). So, here's the thread to discuss them. Need information? Looking to grow some? Are you already an avid collector? I just bought my first, after being introduced to them on an Epiphyllum forum. It's an Oxypetalum, which is known for it's large, fragrant, white flowers which bloom for only one night. I'm already addicted! Galapagos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 wow, i want one of these flowersi wonder if there is any shamanistic data on this plantlet me look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I looked around, and the only data is from shamanistic values from China to the Americas. Outdated and not researched well. I bet if we had more acces to the chinese medicinal database we would have a better picture on the propeties involved with this plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galapagos Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Is E. oxypetalum viviparous? Some of the Epiphyllum species are, and they produce quite beautiful fruits that burst with germinating seedlings. There are some good pics of the viviparous fruits/offspring in this paper: viviparity in E. phyllanthus The above article may be interesting to anyone interested in the ecology/evolution of viviparous plants/cacti in general:Vivipary and offspring survival in the epiphytic cactus Epiphyllum phyllanthus (Cactaceae) -- Cota-Sánchez and Abreu, 10.1093/jxb/erm232 -- Journal of Experimental BotanyOur data suggest that vivipary is an intrinsic reproductive mechanism favouring the germination and dispersal of the fittest offspring regardless of substrate and environmental conditions. Even with the expensive metabolic costs involved in viviparous reproduction, the proportion of the fittest individuals able to establish successfully during the early stages, though relatively low, is equivalent in the two lots under natural conditions. Therefore, germination is not a limiting factor in the perpetuation of viviparous species, but seedling establishment is. In viviparous individuals of E. phyllanthus seedling mortality during the acclimation and establishment phases rather than failure to germinate within the fruit appears to be one of the limiting factors affecting local population density. In conclusion, the incidence of vivipary in phylogenetically distinct lineages of the cactus family is evidence of a parallel directional change towards a more practical reproductive mechanism. In other words, it is a reproductive advantage that, in addition to allowing propagules to root and grow almost immediately, favours quick establishment whenever seedlings land on suitable substrates. Mercedes Benzene 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Is E. oxypetalum viviparous? Some of the Epiphyllum species are, and they produce quite beautiful fruits that burst with germinating seedlings. There are some good pics of the viviparous fruits/offspring in this paper: viviparity in E. phyllanthus The above article may be interesting to anyone interested in the ecology/evolution of viviparous plants/cacti in general: That is absolutely fantastic information Galapagos! Thanks for sharing!Oxypetalum is not viviparous, and furthermore requires fertilization from another Oxy plant (many Epies are able to self-fertilize). It makes me want to get my hands on a viviparous specimen. It would certainly make germination easier. From planted seeds, it can take many months for seedlings to grow to the size shown in your pictures above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 interestingbesides having a pretty flower and being ediblei wonder the other properties i read about 75%it was definately coolbut it all had to do with growthin wikipedia, it was said to be a fruitneither of these articles discussed the nutients in them although a viviparious plant is cool(especially in low rain areas)i did not know that word, although vivi->lifei assumed it meant growing while on the plant once again thank you for the read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I used to keep some of those cacti, they had huge blooms and a fruit called a dragon fruit. They were air plants, epiphytes, no soil needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I used to keep some of those cacti, they had huge blooms and a fruit called a dragon fruit. They were air plants, epiphytes, no soil needed. Dragon fruit plant actually make up another genus: Hylocereus. They are no doubt related and their leaves are very similar, but different indeed. Epiphyllum fruit are edible though, and from what I hear very tasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I have a few more cuttings coming on Wednesday. This variety will be Epiphyllum Crenatum.Let's hope they survive the cold trip from California though :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Okay! A wonderful woman from LA sent me some cuttings, which arrived today! :]The first image shows the cuttings, four of one variety, and a rooted cutting of another (which she included as a surprise!). I planted these the second I received them and the second, third and fourth pictures show the final results. The species with 4 cuttings is Epiphyllum Crenatum. By potting them together you get a more hearty specimen with stronger root growth, and hopefully, an earlier bloom. The rooted cutting is a hybrid: E. "Climax"I'm working on figuring out what the parent species are. The final picture is of all of my pots together, including my original which I have named Heathcliff.:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Okay! A wonderful woman from LA sent me some cuttings, which arrived today! :]The first image shows the cuttings, four of one variety, and a rooted cutting of another (which she included as a surprise!). I planted these the second I received them and the second, third and fourth pictures show the final results. The species with 4 cuttings is Epiphyllum Crenatum. By potting them together you get a more hearty specimen with stronger root growth, and hopefully, an earlier bloom. The rooted cutting is a hybrid: E. "Climax"I'm working on figuring out what the parent species are. The final picture is of all of my pots together, including my original which I have named Heathcliff.:) Nice work! Looking at Heathcliff's new friends, I was struck how they look like Christmas Cactus which we have got as Christmas gifts from time to time. None on hand now as I think the last one was left outside & froze a couple years ago. :eek: :doh: Looks like Christmas Cactus go by many names:Holiday Cactus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ...Other synonyms[verification needed] include Epiphyllum altensteinii, Schlumbergera truncata var. altensteinii, Zygocactus truncatus var. altensteinii, Epiphyllum bridgesii, Epiphyllum truncatum var. bridgesii, Zygocactus bridgesii, Epiphyllum delicatum, Schlumbergera truncata var. delicata, Zygocactus delicatus, Epiphyllum ruckeri, Epiphyllum ruckerianum, Cactus truncatus, Epiphyllum truncatum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Christmas Cacti are indeed related to Epies, although I disagree with wikipedia's ideas of "synonyms." None should have the classification of Epiphyllum, since that's a completely different genus. I do believe however, that Epiphyllum can be hybridized with Schlumbergera, and that's how one gets some of the spectacular varieties of Epies that are seen today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 My plants have safely weathered the trip to Massachusetts, and are situated in their new home (my dorm). The only problem is that they have a northern exposure, which will definitely affect their growing patterns. I'm still waiting on some sign of new growth on any of the cuttings, but no such luck. A Note On: Epiphyllum transitions.MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 This morning I discovered something fantastic: New growth!After having my plants for only a couple weeks, I hadn't expected to see any "action" so soon, especially since it's the middle of winter!Anyway, here's a picture. The growth is on my "Climax" specimen. The most interesting part of this whole thing is that this new growth is coming from an areole on the top of what appears to be a young growth itself! (See picture above for a better view of the whole plant). I would have expected any new growth to come from the main plant body, rather than a younger appendage. A Note On: Pleasant Epi-growth surprises.MB Ganoderma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganoderma Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 those look great man!!! We have oodles of E. oxy growing around here, if you are wanting any cuttings to try and breed them, just pm me :) i got a stack of cuttings sitting by my monitor now waiting for pots lol. they are for sure self sterile. every time i have tried to self them, nothing comes of it :( Last year i did a bunch of attempts at hybridizing this species with dragon fruit (Hylocereus undatus) but they did nothing as well, these were just simple pollen swaps though. this year i will try some style grafts and see what comes of that. the "christmas cactus" we always bought in western canada were almost always of the Zygocactus genus, which is now lumped in with Schlumbergera species. from cacti guide (a great cacti resource!) Epiphyllum oxypetalumCommon Name(s): Dutchman's-Pipe CactusSynonym(s): Cereus oxypetalus, Phyllocactus oxypetalus, Cereus latifrons, Epiphyllum latifrons, Phyllocactus grandis, Epiphyllum grande, Epiphyllum acuminatum Dutchman's-Pipe Cactus reminds me of a photo i took a couple years ago of flowers the day before opening...i was thinking pipe as well! another one that may be fun to try hybridizing with is Rhipsalis sp. so cool to see other cacti philes here :D Mercedes Benzene 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Benzene Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 How old is that plant in the picture Ganoderma?Was it purposefully planted, or was it just growing "wild" there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganoderma Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 10 years give or take. thats how that species grows when planted in ground and left alone. these do grow "wild" here, once planted. but they are not naturalized cause there are no pollinators here and most localities are all clones of the same plant, so it doesn't matter anyway. people rarely grow them hanging here, generally in the grown as they will grow a couple meters high on their own then bend over as they get top heavy. any other species you have on the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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