Queso Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I understand and fully acknowledge that most of the things i think about are not even in english!they are occuring in my mind in such strange fashions that i have dedicated my life to finding new and better ways to say what it is that i really want to say. Now, with that said,there is something that i figured out in my headone night visiting the nonordinary reality realmdescribed as follows: THESE ESTIMATES ARE ROUGH, i havnt done that much research it took roughly 2 billion years for life for occur100,000 years for our evolved hominoidabout 10,000 for our conciousness400 years for our society to evolve (agriculture, scientific revolutions, etc.) looking at the nature of this evolutionary paradigmits evident that we should be seeing this NEW evolution manifest itself IN OUR LIFETIMEa NEW evolutionnot the old, sterile, efficient way of evolutionbut a new evolution of SELFthat stems from two types of informationdigital and analog. ++++the digital being artificial intelligence ++++the analog being electro biology (the cloning of the organism) and you link thedr two together with neurobiology. in the old evolutionary paradigmone organism would conquer the otherone would live, while the other would die off but in the NEW evolutionary paradigm we would all exist as a mutually supportive grouping. evolution now becomes an individual centered process, eminating from the needs and desires from the individual and not an external process, a passive process. now imagine a neo human with a new individuality+a new conciousnessthis is only the begining of the new evolutionary cyclebecause as the next cycle proceedsthe input is now this new intelligenceas intelligence pawns on intelligenceas ability pawns on abilitythe speed changesuntil what??? you reach a crescendo!in a way, it could be imagined as an instantaneous fulfullment of human, and neo human potential. it could be something totally differentit could be the amplification of the individual!the multiplication of multiple existences!parallell existencesnow that the individual is not restricted by time and space. these manifestations of neo humans COULD also be dramatically counter+intuitive. these manifestations will be those of social adaptation: parasitism, dominance, morality, war!! These will be subject to deemphasis!these will be subject to DeEVOLUTION!! :) The new evolutionary paragidm will give us traits of truth, loyalty, justice, freedom, and this is what i hope to see. Now, with all of that said......I could NOT put this into words, when i thought of this concept.I imagined an instant fulfullment of man, as we spun at infinite speedas a species learning. I watched a movie the other day that sparked my conciousness!one that perfectly made sense about all of thisand it took OUR ideaand explained it for meand now i have presented it to hypography to see what you guys think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 i would really appreciate any form of feedback because these thoughts are driving me crazy, I feel like pacing around the roof of a tall buildingjust talking with my own short concrete echoGratzi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrotex Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 ...evident that we should be seeing this NEW evolution manifest itself IN OUR LIFETIME a NEW evolutionnot the old, sterile, efficient way of evolutionbut a new evolution of SELFthat stems from two types of informationdigital and analog...i have presented it ...to see what you guys think.I think that you're on to something.I think you may be right.But will WE think this change is good?Or will it be a blight? Will it leave US strong and golden,With skills and power and might?Or will its coming replace mere USWith something we can't fight? Will People Prime look back on USAs monkeys in the dark?Will they appreciate the factThat from us They did spark? Will mega evolution leaveAny room for US on Earth?Or will WE live on in newer skinsThe parents of our birth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 pyrotex,i could not have imagined a better unpredictable reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrotex Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 pyrotex,i could not have imagined a better unpredictable reply. thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I understand I think the words you do not use Orby. I think it is like an egg, like a chrysalis, like a seed. They all look so nice in their egg-hood, chrysalis-hood, or seed-hood. Well formed, tensegretic forms with surfaces too varied to mention. Beautiful things by any other words. Yet, they must break away, & all in a sudden too! Breaking, cracking (all things crack in 3 did you know?), breaking open an acknowledged wonder before something even more new can grow. It's not anything to fear. Don't children & adults alike huddle round to see the chicken's egg hatch, or the butterfly emerge from the chrysalis, or the seed sprout? It is something to draw closer to, not away from. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantism Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 i think, pyro, the answer to your many questions comes with time. here is a few more. will all of our family lines eventually evolve to psudo-humans? depends, will current human and psudo-humans want to/be able to reproduce together? will current humans freak out and kill all of the neo-humans "for our own good"? turtle, you are right, its nothing to actually be afriaid of...but we cannot forget in this discussion that humanity and society fears the unknown, and the real answers lie in how people will react. that is assuming that discrepencies between psudo-humans and surrent humans are noticed before we all just evolve without even realizing it. hehehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantism Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 i wonder if monkeys ever consider the world the way we do, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 You All Have No Idea What I Am Talking About And That Is My Fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkellmd Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Waking Life was a good movie, indeed, and that segment was one of the best. If you look at the rate of scientific and industrial progress, and the rate of cultural evolution made possible by human consciousness, the implications are pretty staggering. I especially like the dude's optimistic outlook regarding the de-evolution of primitive agressive traits. The globalization of citizenship, and general decrease in nationalism within industrial societies, is great evidence that this is happeining, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 YES! acknowledgement!ah, ahhhh ah ah ahhhhcompletely agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkellmd Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 By the way, in many ways this is creating friction within our society presently. Take, for example, the people in the US who are mistrustful of the UN and the idea of globalization (a paranoid minority, I admit). Also, consider the constant struggle between assimlation and "multi-culturalism" across many societies. Collective consciousness and global citezenship are considered, by some, to be quite eccentric ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 yes,what is to happen to these individuals?well certainly the only thing!ABSOLUTE END imagine these neo humans, UNRESTRICTED by time and space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantism Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 unresticted by time and space? that may be a bit far out, even for you orby. i can understand the time aspect...time is a man-made concept, at least, we saw that it was there and we gave it a name. a sort of a measure for why the sun comes up and then goes down every "day" most likely. *not to be confused with the dimension of time. if these beings were excluded from that, would they be immortal >>? as far as space goes, if these beings existed on the planet Earth...they would have to be made up of matter and therefore would have to have a mass and therefore would be effected by gravity. what else exists in deep space besides objects of mass and gravity fields? isnt that being affected by space, then >>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 you will not understand until the next step in evolution is beemingly evidentand neither will iyou arent grasping the concept of what i am saying at all, mr ((())) but dont take that personallybecause like i said THREE THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN ANOTHER WORLD its my fault that you dontbecause i didnt explain it IN EASY CONTEXTand knowing me, its probably fragmentedand makes no sense to the publicDAMN THE ZOOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 AND DONT TAKE EVERYTHING SO SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!! i can //(#$/%#$ fly with omni directional eyes through dimensions of a moved assembleage point! that can be experiencedas if livedand ive done itthereforei believe i can do anything throw some of my thread into a metaphor soupthink about conciousness, creativityBRAIN MINDand maybe like BINGOlightit will click or somethingFLICK YOUR BIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantism Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 ah yes, clearly there is something being talked about here that i cannot yet grasp. though, i make an eligant effort to grasp it, my hand-mind seems to still remain small. i cannot yet catch up to the sun, but i will continue to try, and tommorow i will run faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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