Little Bang Posted August 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I don't understand Q, why do you say that is my understanding of superposition wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Conscious thinking is the creation of discontinuous artificial separateness, as ‘objects’, allowing relational abstract manipulation between internal symbols and the swapping of symbols we call ‘communication’, but all which is communicated is entirely abstractions, for there are not actually physically separate objects, and thus no actual communication or something real has occurred. Dreams and fantasies are constructed on the same basis, though informally constructed. You are reading symbols which deny the validity of the symbols. Thus no need for denials or refutation. *explodes to one* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEL555 Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Conscious thinking is the creation of discontinuous artificial separateness, as ‘objects’, allowing relational abstract manipulation between internal symbols and the swapping of symbols we call ‘communication’, but all which is communicated is entirely abstractions, for there are not actually physically separate objects, and thus no actual communication or something real has occurred. Dreams and fantasies are constructed on the same basis, though informally constructed. You are reading symbols which deny the validity of the symbols. Thus no need for denials or refutation. *explodes to one*really?the abstract is the detail. jkho ho ho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bang Posted August 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Mel, I can't believe you actually understod that because I sure don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qfwfq Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Don't overly worry Little Bang, if you didn't! :hihi: I don't understand Q, why do you say that is my understanding of superposition wrong.Ask Schrödinger's cat. :eek: I didn't really say that it is actually wrong. How plausible is it for the states of all the particles involved to be, and remain, coherent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 heh, you either get it immediately, or never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Lee_E Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 The thought occured to me soon before I discovered the science was already in its infancy. Since then quantum consciousness has been a topic of intense personal debate. Might I suggest "The Physics of Consciousness" by Evan Harris Walker. It does well to support the Quantum Consciousness theory - providing actual numbers for new terms such as, 'consciousness bit rates', 'consciousness data streams', etc. - and it almost takes a stab at a Theory of Everything. This book pulled me back from my prior self, the almost fully athiest me, and has made me agnostic again. As for my thoughts on the theory: It sits well, and with time may come to be as sturdy, and percievable as the Big Bang theory. Though, for most people - those without professor-level mathematics skills - as with myself, it requires a bit of faith. And when faith is in play, I take the agnostic approach... always. Even when physicists play with the notion in their heads - like many of the big, important sciences - they to are required to show a little faith to believe. Though I must admit, the same interest has inflated my spirituality. Agnostic and spiritual, is that allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtown Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Agnostic and spiritual, is that allowed?Agnostic is indifferent. I think that qualifies as the antithesis of spiritual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geokker Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Agnosticism is a prerequisite for professional spiritualism just as atheism is for TV evangelism. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Might I suggest "The Physics of Consciousness" by Evan Harris Walker. I particularly like the full title of the theory: QUANTUM THEORY OF CONSCIOUSNESS© ...any theory that has a copyright symbol in it must really struggle to be taken carefully. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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