infamous Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I don't believe in democracy. I think that the general public is too ignorant to make decisions :shrug:So let me get this straight, we common citizenry are not smart enough to govern ourselves. Let me quess, you would like that job, right? I don't think so.........................................I'm not ready for some smart guy like you to set my agenda. Thanks, but no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuinders Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 So let me get this straight, we common citizenry are not smart enough to govern ourselves. Let me quess, you would like that job, right? I don't think so.........................................I'm not ready for some smart guy like you to set my agenda. Thanks, but no thanks.Either I didn't make my point clear enough or you just missed it. I said nothing about the public running their own lives - I said they are (in general) not informed enough to make global decisions which require specialized knowledge (or elect people suitable enough to do that for them... although I suppose they don't have a huge selection to choose from; another problem for another discussion). Also, it was wrong to assume that I was suggesting that I am fit to fill such a position myself. I'm just presenting an idea. I don't mind being set right on the matter, but don't nail me to a cross here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Bang Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 A good goverment is one that stays out of it's citizens lives as much as possible and ours ain't that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAHD Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 A good government gives the people a unifying goal, it would just be better if the goal wasn't genocide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majordinkydau Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Good government in a perfect world would only do what was written in the preemble, form a more perfect union, provide for common defense, promote general wealfare. The less any government does, the better. If you have worked with berocrates, you know how they waste time and money filling out their precious forms. I often joke about developing a weapon which desolves all the paper in a several mile radius. Such a weapon would make me king, then everything would go smoothly as long as you no one trys to take it away from me. Penal colonies, anyone? Most problems society faces could be well handled on a local basis. The more you centralize power the more rotten it becomes. Our system would work great if they all followed what the Constitution layed down with 3 branches checking each others powers. Now we have courts writting laws, the president has power to be a dictator under national emergency, ( don't blame Bush for this, from Rosevelt on through Jimmy Carter that coffin was built. Power corrupts, history proves it.Here's a poem I wrote about it COME DANCE THE CIRCLE Until a time that fleeting dreams meet beds of fertile soilAnd all the ageless faces turn from angerThe poor man’s back remains bent from his life of toilBut the wealthy still retain their swaggerThis system of injustice leads a body’s blood to boilTil the meekest of them all grasps a dagger Can’t you see where this is leading Don’t you know what this is breeding That the crop that you’ve been seeding’s almost grown Now history records the times repression had its ruleThe common man was herded just like cattlePower is the drug of choice for every ruthless foolAnd every leading shaman shakes his rattleTo feed their boundless hunger they abuse us like a toolA tool that becomes a sword in battle The masses they are grumbling While the mighty walls are crumbling Till the ruthless kings come tumbling to the ground The pens of graceful statesmen have produced great governmentsPromise peace and safety to all classesTil the germs of greed and power cause the mixture to fermentPeace is just the rifle shot that missesThe common man is trod upon to such a great extentComfort’s just the rich upon their asses The sheep have stopped their bleating The Sunday morning greeting Becomes the steady beating of war drums Douglas W. Coulter 1994 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it infamous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay-qu Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I had someone try and tell me that the idea government would be a dictatorship with the occasional assasination... I put i bit of thought into it and im not to sure what he meant, and whether he said it in jest or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamous Posted July 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Good government in a perfect world would only do what was written in the preemble, form a more perfect union, provide for common defense, promote general wealfare. The less any government does, the better. If you have worked with berocrates, you know how they waste time and money filling out their precious forms. I often joke about developing a weapon which desolves all the paper in a several mile radius. Such a weapon would make me king, then everything would go smoothly as long as you no one trys to take it away from me. Penal colonies, anyone? Most problems society faces could be well handled on a local basis. The more you centralize power the more rotten it becomes. Our system would work great if they all followed what the Constitution layed down with 3 branches checking each others powers. Now we have courts writting laws, the president has power to be a dictator under national emergency, ( don't blame Bush for this, from Rosevelt on through Jimmy Carter that coffin was built. Power corrupts, history proves it.Here's a poem I wrote about it COME DANCE THE CIRCLE Until a time that fleeting dreams meet beds of fertile soilAnd all the ageless faces turn from angerThe poor man’s back remains bent from his life of toilBut the wealthy still retain their swaggerThis system of injustice leads a body’s blood to boilTil the meekest of them all grasps a daggerCan’t you see where this is leadingDon’t you know what this is breeding That the crop that you’ve been seeding’s almost grown Now history records the times repression had its ruleThe common man was herded just like cattlePower is the drug of choice for every ruthless foolAnd every leading shaman shakes his rattleTo feed their boundless hunger they abuse us like a toolA tool that becomes a sword in battleThe masses they are grumblingWhile the mighty walls are crumblingTill the ruthless kings come tumbling to the ground The pens of graceful statesmen have produced great governmentsPromise peace and safety to all classesTil the germs of greed and power cause the mixture to fermentPeace is just the rifle shot that missesThe common man is trod upon to such a great extentComfort’s just the rich upon their assesThe sheep have stopped their bleatingThe Sunday morning greetingBecomes the steady beating of war drums Douglas W. Coulter 1994 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build itMajorD, I must commend you for placing one of the most eloquent posts that I've had the pleasure to read since I've been here at Hypography. I must offer you a belated welcome to this forum, I'm sure you will have many other fine posts to grace us with in the near future...................................infamous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 a good government is another persons worst nightmare. it's all opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qfwfq Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 If there were a universal idea of the best government, there would be no need for democracy. If there were a true enlightened despot, there would be no need for the occasional assassination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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