Proof That Nasa Is Possible.

[quickquestion]

I have visual evidence (using Box 2D physics) that Nasa Space Travel is possible.

 

This experimental is totally reproducable and you can do it on your own.

 

Conspiracy theorists claim that Moon Travel is a Hoax because rockets cannot travel through space without air to push against the rocket exhaust. They also claim that that balloons have no thrust while in a vacuum.

 

This is demonstratably false. I have done an experimental proving that random particles, when put in a funnel shape, will create thrust.

 

Thus, the argument that rockets cannot travel through space, is an invalid argument.

 

[Darky]

I have visual evidence (using Box 2D physics) that Nasa Space Travel is possible.

 

This experimental is totally reproducable and you can do it on your own.

 

Conspiracy theorists claim that Moon Travel is a Hoax because rockets cannot travel through space without air to push against the rocket exhaust. They also claim that that balloons have no thrust while in a vacuum.

 

This is demonstratably false. I have done an experimental proving that random particles, when put in a funnel shape, will create thrust.

 

Thus, the argument that rockets cannot travel through space, is an invalid argument.

For starters, evaluate before saying something proven before as impossible now is possible.

 

Random particles? No. That's not true. Only some particles have the ability to produce thrust and that is if something pushes against them. So instead of air, you could use other particles but as it's said, air is the cheapest. Money is precious to Nasa aswell.

 

Evaluate more if you feel like I'm talking rubbish so I could understand you better and we'll get through this as a team (a community).

[Darky]

For starters, evaluate before saying something proven before as impossible now is possible.

Random particles? No. That's not true. Only some particles have the ability to produce thrust and that is if something pushes against them. So instead of air, you could use other particles but as it's said, air is the cheapest. Money is precious to Nasa aswell.

Evaluate more if you feel like I'm talking rubbish so I could understand you better and we'll get through this as a team (a community).

Hi,

 

To prove my point, even water can create thrust, I know water is a compound. You will fail to do this in space as there is nothing for water to push against while on earth, there is oxygen/carbon dioxide and other gases (aka air).

[quickquestion]

For starters, evaluate before saying something proven before as impossible now is possible.

 

Random particles? No. That's not true. Only some particles have the ability to produce thrust and that is if something pushes against them. So instead of air, you could use other particles but as it's said, air is the cheapest. Money is precious to Nasa aswell.

 

Evaluate more if you feel like I'm talking rubbish so I could understand you better and we'll get through this as a team (a community).

I never said Nasa was impossible, I was just saying that conspiracy theorists said it was impossible and I am proving them wrong.

By random particles I mean the particles were given a random location and velocity to simulate a gas.

 

 

Hi,

 

To prove my point, even water can create thrust, I know water is a compound. You will fail to do this in space as there is nothing for water to push against while on earth, there is oxygen/carbon dioxide and other gases (aka air).

The simulation is reproducable and in the simulation there was no air resistance. Thrust via fluids can occur in space.

Edited April 21, 2017 by quickquestion

[Darky]

I never said Nasa was impossible, I was just saying that conspiracy theorists said it was impossible and I am proving them wrong.

By random particles I mean the particles were given a random location and velocity to simulate a gas.

 

 

 

 

The simulation is reproducable and in the simulation there was no air resistance. Thrust via fluids can occur in space.

To create such a velocity you would need a gas. Why would you use water (which costs more, has more weight) instead of air (costs less, almost weighs nothing)? Explain this.

[billvon]

To create such a velocity you would need a gas. Why would you use water (which costs more, has more weight) instead of air (costs less, almost weighs nothing)? Explain this.

More mass.  Easier to store.

[Darky]

More mass.  Easier to store.

Hi,

 

Your reason is irrelevant. Air has never been an issue to store. They're are metal containers for air. You'd be adding extra weight. It's hard enough to leave the atmosphere (without the extra weight).

[quickquestion]

The reason the thrust occurs is law of averages. Temperature is related to how fast particles in the substance are moving. Thus if you heat the water it will turn into steam, and more thrust.

[exchemist]

I have visual evidence (using Box 2D physics) that Nasa Space Travel is possible.

 

This experimental is totally reproducable and you can do it on your own.

 

Conspiracy theorists claim that Moon Travel is a Hoax because rockets cannot travel through space without air to push against the rocket exhaust. They also claim that that balloons have no thrust while in a vacuum.

 

This is demonstratably false. I have done an experimental proving that random particles, when put in a funnel shape, will create thrust.

 

Thus, the argument that rockets cannot travel through space, is an invalid argument.

Well of course! Anybody that understands Newton's laws of motion realises this. 

 

Are there really people that think you need to push against air to get a rocket to move? How idiotic of them.

 

In French the very word for a jet aircraft is avion à reaction.  So they get it, at least. 

[Darky]

Well of course! Anybody that understands Newton's laws of motion realises this. 

 

Are there really people that think you need to push against air to get a rocket to move? How idiotic of them.

 

In French the very word for a jet aircraft is avion à reaction.  So they get it, at least.

 

Hi,

 

I didn't say air was the only thing you could use, however, it's the cheapest and least valuable asset. It's also the lightest.

[Super Polymath]

Thus if you heat the water it will turn into steam, and more thrust.

Reported or inappropriate euphemisms. 

[quickquestion]

Well of course! Anybody that understands Newton's laws of motion realises this. 

 

Are there really people that think you need to push against air to get a rocket to move? How idiotic of them.

 

In French the very word for a jet aircraft is avion à reaction.  So they get it, at least. 

Sadly, there are such people.

I blame it on high school not teaching physics correctly.

They don't really go into the details of how balloon or rocket thrust occurs, they just take it as a given.

[Super Polymath]

Is this thread attempting to assure us that NASA is legit?

 

Personally, I wouldn't waste my time on explaining things to anyone who believes the lunar landing was fake.

[A-wal]

Well of course! Anybody that understands Newton's laws of motion realises this. 

 

Are there really people that think you need to push against air to get a rocket to move? How idiotic of them.

 

In French the very word for a jet aircraft is avion à reaction.  So they get it, at least. 

A quote of one of my earlier posts:

They actually used to think that it was impossible to for rockets to work in space because there's no air to push against. When one scientist said it was he was ridiculed with all the usual 'crackpot crank who doesn't even have a high school level understanding' nonsense and of course it snowballed with others that wanted to sound clever and trusted the 'real' scientists all weighing in, until he was proved right, then they all just kept their mouths shut. :) Scientists are so funny at times.

Not understanding Newton's laws was the main accusation thrown at people that thought that rockets could accelerate in space, Newton's laws were the reason given by scientists for rockets NOT being able to generate thrust without having a medium to push against.

 

I have no doubt that if you born earlier you'd use the exactly same argument to make the exact opposite claim. You're very funny too.

Edited April 23, 2017 by A-wal

[exchemist]

A quote of one of my earlier posts:

Not understanding Newton's laws was the main accusation thrown at people that thought that rockets could accelerate in space, Newton's laws were the reason given by scientists for rockets NOT being able to generate thrust without having a medium to push against.

 

I have no doubt that if you born earlier you'd use the exactly same argument to make the exact opposite claim. You're very funny too.

Reference?

[JMJones0424]

A quote of one of my earlier posts:

Not understanding Newton's laws was the main accusation thrown at people that thought that rockets could accelerate in space, Newton's laws were the reason given by scientists for rockets NOT being able to generate thrust without having a medium to push against.

Which of Newton's laws do you suppose were held to be evidence that rockets needed a medium to push against?  What scientists are you referring to?

 

I can find nothing in Newton's Laws of Motion that would suggest that rockets need a medium to thrust against.  Instead, it seems to me that Newton showed that this requirement is false.  On what reference are you making your claim?

[billvon]

Not understanding Newton's laws was the main accusation thrown at people that thought that rockets could accelerate in space, Newton's laws were the reason given by scientists for rockets NOT being able to generate thrust without having a medium to push against.

 

 

No, scientists did not make that claim.  The most famous example of that claim came from the editor of the New York Times:

 

"That Professor Goddard with his 'chair' in Clark College and the countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution, does not know the relation of action to reaction, and of the need to something better than a vacuum against which to react—to say that would be absurd. Of course he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."

 

People then repeated that over and over.