Tim_Lou Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 hey, but the main idea is this: monkey's DNA is more simliar to human,as compare to a mouse. also like the protein in cat is more similar to those in a lion compare to a fly. so, these suggest that monkeys are more closely related to human as mouse to human. and a cat is more related to a lion than a lion to a fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD27 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 but that by far proves that man evolved from monkey/apes...in fact, ho can anyone take a single skull, that is supposedly "bilions of years old" and say it was an early evolution of a huamn. right, funny, hahaha, how do they know it wasn't jsut an ape, a very old ape? and not a human? i got a question for you,if evolution is true, then why don't we see LIVING forms of these "stages" of evolution we find so much..and why is it only ONE that we find? and there is no way that evolution could happen over time, it either happened insteaintly,. or not at all. a fish can't jump on land and expect to ahve little babies who can also survive on land without dieing in the first 5 minutes of doing this. there is no way. and a fish can't grow little lungs under water and expect to live long enough to survive. here is a link to further explain it. http://www.changinglivesonline.org/evolution.html#complex Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Martin Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 Originally posted by: IrishEyesBy UNCLE: CD, how do dinosaurs fit in with your flood? You must admit that they existed at some time. YET your bible fails to explain away this anomoly. Surely someone would have mentioned T-Rex roaming through the village 6000 years ago. Hi there Unc! Ok, I'm going to spend the time to read all of this thread today (geez, you guys posted a lot of crap while I was gone!), but I wanted to just jump right in for now... Dinos existed. I saw their bones in the Smithsonian. ;-) MY Bible doesn't call them dinosaurs though, as that term was not coined when MY Bible was written. However, MY Bible does mention behemoths and leviathans (in the Book of JOB), as well as other un-named large sea and land creatures. Hi IrishEyes, That's a very good answer. Just vague enough to include anything larger than a cow or porpoise. Of course I can't prove those were not the words used to describe dinosaurs any more than you can prove they were. But that seems to be a recurrent theme with the Bible. I wish I could go on about something, but I recognize futility when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 "but that by far proves that man evolved from monkey/apes" sry, but it is an common mistake! apes, monkeys and humans are not like in evolutionary order. the only thing is that they share a common ancestor, human does not evolved from monkeys!!!! the ancestor went extinted, and there are fossils record of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by: Tim_Lou"but that by far proves that man evolved from monkey/apes" sry, but it is an common mistake! apes, monkeys and humans are not like in evolutionary order. the only thing is that they share a common ancestor, human does not evolved from monkeys!!!! the ancestor went extinted, and there are fossils record of it.Excellent job Tim! Yes, it is a common lie promoted by Creationists to claim humans came from today's apes. It shows willing to lie the leaders are and how ignorant the followers are in accepting it. You did an excellent job of laying out the actual description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 thx~ i remember i asked my teacher the same questions b4 lol...after studying evolution, it is really the most reasonably theory so far. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleMad Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 There is more than just the >95% DNA-sequence similarity between chimps and humans that shows we shared a common ancestor, there is also structural chromosomla evidence. There is a difference in chromosome count of 2 (1 pair difference) and this is quite nicely explained by there having been a fusion of two chromosomes sometime in the past. Just a fabrication to cover the difference? Nope. Chromosmoal banding patterns demonstrate that just such an event actually did take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Telemad, it really doesn't matter how much evidence there is to prove Evoution, even though it is extremely massive at this point. It is not enough, it will never be enough. We could discover two entire continual, contiguous family lines of fossils from some far past common primate ancestry to both a living human family and some apes in Africa. Each fully labled with names and dates. And the Creationists would ask where the 2nd cousin to Ugh in 10,000 BC is. Otherwise we still have not proven an Evolutionary connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Martin Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I think we need a thread on how to reason with unreasonable people. Stupid people will invariably believe a simple falsehood over the complex but absolute truth. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Thread? We need an extensive amount of psychological research to find out why people prefer to be intentionally deluded into accepting things that are harmful to themselves and society in general. We could start with Christianity. It is the worst problem at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 i agree with you that the "old-fashion" type of christianity is harmful to the world.but the newly "evolved" christianity is a helpful accessory to this world. and if christianity is "the worst problem", i would say "money" is even worse (see how many stealing there are, and how many ppl die b/c of it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Martin Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 Originally posted by: Tim_Loui agree with you that the "old-fashion" type of christianity is harmful to the world.but the newly "evolved" christianity is a helpful accessory to this world.How is it helpful?and if christianity is "the worst problem", i would say "money" is even worse (see how many stealing there are, and how many ppl die b/c of it).So what you're telling me Tim is that you've become a Socialist Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 almost all the christianitians ive seen are friendly, amicable... in china, people in a bus wouldnt give seats to old people. but a christian will. (well, i will too)a christian is not like a war-like guy, they do not fight all the time. i would feel better to have a god rely on, when i do something wrong, god will forgive me, when i fail something, god is with me. no much people read the whole bible and remember the whole book like crazy.people just got the idea of christianity, like love your enemy, helping others, forgive....so on,christianity is like for a better personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 if your talking about a christian going to fight for their "god", it is the old christian. the new one is based on the society, it is simply something to rely on.dont tell me that in this 21 century, wars are all over and people are fighting for their "gods" all around the world, at least, not in this united states. and, if you think christianity is this bad, tell the government and say it is evil.... see if the gov't is gonna ban it. i believe the gov't has a right to stop something harmful to the society, right?just like the whatever evil religion that tells people to suicide in japan is able to be banned by the gov't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Martin Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Originally posted by: Tim_Loualmost all the christianitians ive seen are friendly, amicable...Are they trying to recruit you? I'll admit that at the community level some religious people and organizations can be friendly and even altruistic. There is usually an ulterior motive. Don't forget the Mafia's credo-"keep your friends close,....your enemies closer".in china, people in a bus wouldnt give seats to old people. but a christian will. (well, i will too)Well you KNOW how those Chineese are.a christian is not like a war-like guy, they do not fight all the time.It takes time to build an army.i would feel better to have a god rely on, when i do something wrong, god will forgive me, when i fail something, god is with me.A crutch. A weak one at that. We are all responsible for our own actions. Success' and failures. If you get to blame god for your mistakes you must also give him credit for your success'. Why even bother to live?christianity is like for a better personality.Your personality should reflect who you are, not what someone tells you to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Martin Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Originally posted by: Tim_Louif your talking about a christian going to fight for their "god",it is the old christian.the new one is based on the society, it is simply something to rely on.dont tell me that in this 21 century, wars are all over and people are fighting for their "gods" all around the world, at least, not in this united states.Bush is trying to start WW III in the name of Christianity. Everything you've stated here is false. Look at the Bush thread for more evidence than anyone should need.and, if you think christianity is this bad, tell the government and say it is evil.... see if the gov't is gonna ban it.i believe the gov't has a right to stop something harmful to the society, right?Wrong! Ever hear of the constitution? I agree with and abide by it. I believe in freedom of religion, this includes freedom from religion. More importantly I believe that separation of church and state is the only way humanity can survive. Some factions are trying to diminish this separation, and they're getting dangerously close to succeeding.just like the whatever evil religion that tells people to suicide in japan is able to be banned by the gov't...I'm not familiar with Japaneese law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeleMad Posted June 20, 2004 Report Share Posted June 20, 2004 Evolution is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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