arkain101 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) (Image is not a direct representation of the design in mind in reference to this post it was retrieved from an online source as an similar example of the pump type.)(image to show concept of pump type.)Image source: http://grabcad.com/library/centrifugal-pump--12Purpose:To design a pipeline system that has enough pumps in a series in-line in order to reduce pressure to essentially neutral for several reasons.1)Reduced pressure prevents leaks and leaking quantity in the case of leaks.2)Multiple pumping system more reliable and provides for real-time monitoring systems.Design:Power source: ElectricPump type: rotating centrifugal pumps.Pump number: approximately every kilometerMonitoring system: rpm, pressure, visual cameraNumber of pipes: single pipe with a weather protection shell.It will cost more to build a system like this, but it will be worth it to prevent any chance of spills. Edited August 14, 2020 by arkain101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkain101 Posted January 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thoughts and opinions? Some products are designed to be under pressure. However, this is just a theory to create neutral pressure product transportation pipeline systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thoughts and opinions? Some products are designed to be under pressure. However, this is just a theory to create neutral pressure product transportation pipeline systems. Would they be able to use that in some project, say as large as the Keystone Pipeline? or is it for smaller projects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkain101 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) I will get back to you on that question. I was just trying to think of a way to make it safer and better. There is a lot of controversy for the project occurring here in the British Columbia. Edited February 4, 2014 by arkain101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieAG Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Thoughts and opinions? Some products are designed to be under pressure. However, this is just a theory to create neutral pressure product transportation pipeline systems. The impeller could be angled at 45 degrees to give a complete in-line system without a 90 degree bend in the pipeline. Most of the parts would stay the same but the impeller housing would need to be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkain101 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The impeller could be angled at 45 degrees to give a complete in-line system without a 90 degree bend in the pipeline. Most of the parts would stay the same but the impeller housing would need to be changed. Well said. I certainly agree a different housing would be ideal to keep it inline and have as few joints (leak points) as possible. (keeping in mind I added that picture to give a basic idea of a centrifugal pump) I can see you get the general idea, which is great. Because liquids have friction when moving through a housing, the longer the housing, the greater the liquid resits being pushed. With multiple pumps it voids this complication through a continuous pull-push flow. This in theory takes a load off the pumping system, by gently moving it along, versus forcing it at high pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieAG Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Because liquids have friction when moving through a housing, the longer the housing, the greater the liquid resits being pushed. With multiple pumps it voids this complication through a continuous pull-push flow. This in theory takes a load off the pumping system, by gently moving it along, versus forcing it at high pressures. It's a good idea Arkain101. The liquid also gets friction from the pipe so each individual section could maintain an independent pre-set pressure if external access was broken. There could also be pressure sensors within the housing and on either side that could be used to regulate the flow, one way or the other, and detect if there was any break or obstruction in the pipeline. arkain101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkain101 Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Would they be able to use that in some project, say as large as the Keystone Pipeline? or is it for smaller projects? To my knowledge, yes. With the right design this could be applied to any liquid based product being transported via pipeline. However, a lot of complicated calculations would be involved to determine the long-term benefits. In the most basic of basic formats, the design would be capable to lower the pressure significantly. It is the pressure fluctuations on metal that fatigues its integrity, resulting in failures. Also it is difficult to monitor such a long distance as the keystone project without implementing the necessary technology to do so. This could provide more jobs in respect to the management of the pipeline and provide a sustainable long term economy based around it. (stable growth encourages investment and opportunity in many respects, as one can imagine how it benefits many possibilities) Being that this project is of such massive importance world wide, economically and so forth that it would be worth considering a dual pipeline system as a backup in-case of complications occurring on the singular system. The progress of technology is trending towards higher tech and high sustainability. So as the oil based economy grows, so does the capacity for greener technology, and technological development which will be capable to support energy transitions in order to maintain and supply energy demands. With the development of a more intelligent power grid follows in theory a more stable growth in respect to all things based around the energy sector. Everything that adds to the supply of energy reduces the demand on macro scale producers. The increased efficiency, and micro-home production provides the capacity for growth and lowers costs for energy consumers. In a basic theory, efficiency of technology development provides financial benefits and improved standard of living, which is fundamental for development at large. Edited February 8, 2014 by arkain101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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arkain101 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) The purpose of my posting in relation to these projects is simply to offer another opinion of what is possible to consider in the implementation of this technology. I think getting design discussion out into the open can provide a lot of innovative idea's to help improve the reliability and safety of our technology. Energy is important for our lives, but so is the environment as we know. I see the possibility to transition energy and merge it with nature in such a way that we can create sustainable energy sources that are clean and effective, as time goes on. This can provide a lot of positive opportunity for people around the world, which I think leads to a happier life when organizations and networks are both innovative and supportive. Edited February 8, 2014 by arkain101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkain101 Posted August 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) *Edited Update*My appologies for going off topic with my other posts added to the original topic post.This topic was meant to share a theoretical engineering concept that in-line pumps spaced throughout a pipeline with specific distances could reduce pressure fluctuations of the moving product within a pipeline housing based on the principle that friction of a product moving through a pipeline increases with distance it is moved while in-line pumps both pull and push a liquid to nullify the pressure loads on the pipeline housing. Edited August 14, 2020 by arkain101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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