Queso Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Are clouds chaotic or fractal or neither or in-between? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yes! Moons and Junes and ferris wheels, the dizzy dancing way you feel, :)Buffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 wait....so....they're all of those things?does that mean it just depends on how you look at them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 No, they're all those things at once!Fractal equations can describe their overall shapes as well as the convection that goes on within them.The motion of the molecules and droplets of water within them are highly chaotic.The chaos of the elements drive the seemingly ordered image of the whole.The seemingly ordered shapes cannot be predicted because of the underlying chaotic nature of the system.Ergo, all of the above all at once! Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air, :)Buffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 ahhh see this is what I figured, but I guess I just wanted to hear you say it. gracias mi amiga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 wait....so....they're all of those things?does that mean it just depends on how you look at them? Yes all those thingys Buffy silver bulleted so sharply. But also, yes it depends on how you look at them. A cloud is a cloud, but I have taken to taking an up-fluff view. :ud: :hyper: If youv'e looked at these already, you can at least look at one again for the first time. ;) I have more where this came from. :hyper: Cloudy is as cloudy does I hear. :hyper: YouTube - SUCTON time-lapse 11/08/07 {b} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O63_yDVgTm4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Gosh, I just *LOVE* the Straight-Up Cam! But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone, :ud:Buffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Gosh, I just *LOVE* the Straight-Up Cam! :cheer: But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone, :phones:Buffy Thanks Buffy! I need all the encouragement I can get because, as it turns out, the straight-up cam is a lot of work. :hyper: That is more a reflection on my ability to do work than on the rewards of having it done, and I do think I'm onto treasure. Fractal treasure Orby! The real stuff. Others have looked at cloud chaos from above recently, and for eons from aside, but few from below and straight up. Here's a neat NASA site I just found: >> http://climate.gsfc.nasa.gov/~cahalan/FractalClouds/FractalClouds.html Well, rather than get all foamy at the mouth for this straight-up looking at bottoms-of-clouds business, I found this a rather extrordinary bit of cloudiness. YouTube - SUCTON-2 --clouds crossing vectors http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoYB-hX3FCw coldcreation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 time-lapse New Years Day Sunrise over Y'East (Mt. Hood) Oregon: 1 hour 20 minutes: ~8:00: looking SE from Washington: forecast, partly cloudy :doh: YouTube - Mt. Hood Sunrise New Years Day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzZqAuB_cAo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougF Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I found this vidio that some wild looking clouds, what would cause this formation. Cloud Anomalies - Italy Texas - April 7 2007 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3249731382452908237 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeztar Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I found this vidio that some wild looking clouds, what would cause this formation. Cloud Anomalies - Italy Texas - April 7 2007 Cool video Doug.I don't really know what would cause such formations.I can't even work up a good guess. :shrug: Very cool though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I found this vidio that some wild looking clouds, what would cause this formation. Some special circumstance of pressure, temperature, and humidity, coupled with unknown forces? :eek_big: :D Are clouds chaotic or fractal or neither or in-between? :Glasses: This straight-up-cam time-lapse has some very fractal boundry tendril action going on. More Julia set than Mandelbrot in my judgement. :doh: YouTube - SUCTON time-lapse 11/10/07 {b} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mssUxPv9iE4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Hey Tomod!? Have you seen these clouds there is Oslo? Very rare stuff they are saying. :shrug: .....:Glasses: SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids...Also known as "Mother of Pearl" clouds, nacreous clouds are peppered with tiny ice crystals that blaze with iridescent color when struck by light from the setting sun. It is these crystals that make nacreous clouds rare: they require exceptionally low temperatures of minus 85 Celsius (-120 F) to form. Nacrous clouds float 9 to 16 miles high, curling and uncurling hypnotically as they are stretched in and out by atmospheric gravity waves. ..."The clouds were all over the sky today - from dawn til dusk," adds Morten Ross of Oslo, Norway. "Incredible!" Nacreous clouds - Atmospheric Optics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 This is not my photo, but I was in the area paying attention when it was taken. This cloud form is called a lenticular cloud, and it's formed up on Mt. St. Helens volcano. Imaged captured from the USGS high-res volcano cam at Johnston Ridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REASON Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Here's a photo of some rapidly forming cumulus clouds that my daughter took from our back yard a couple of years ago. I believe she had just turned 11. Turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REASON Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Here's another lenticular cloud, Turtle, that formed over Mt. Fuji in Japan. This is not my photo either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougF Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Cool find Reason, I bet it would look even better in person, :hihi: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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