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#171 Darky

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:51 PM

It's a guess, actually. 
 
If you arrive on earth and begin transmitting data back in time continuously, will you yourself continuously receive data from the future as a result? 
 
You will never get information back from the past, however, you might get information back from yourself in the future. Think about it, this is the trickiest detail of any. If you're at the location and are sending data into the past, is it fair to assume that you will remain in that location and continue sending data into the past? If so, you should begin receiving data from the future almost immediately after beginning. That is still, only a guess.


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Interesting theory, the question is how would your past-self have the technology to recieve data from the future. To do so would be to send a low frequency wave to a galaxy far far away and then have it return to you. In which case, yes it would be possible. However, we are limited on technology for that, I'm sorry to say.

In all said, it's interesting.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:54 PM

Hi,
Interesting theory, the question is how would your past-self have the technology to recieve data from the future. To do so would be to send a low frequency wave to a galaxy far far away and then have it return to you. In which case, yes it would be possible. However, we are limited on technology for that, I'm sorry to say.
In all said, it's interesting.


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Clearly, it doesn't happen. If it did, I'm sure my future-self would sent data to myself at this time right now (I'm not receiving any).

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:08 PM

Hi,

Interesting theory, the question is how would your past-self have the technology to recieve data from the future. To do so would be to send a low frequency wave to a galaxy far far away and then have it return to you. In which case, yes it would be possible. However, we are limited on technology for that, I'm sorry to say.

In all said, it's interesting.

I would suggest you reread the previous page. 


Edited by Super Polymath, 21 April 2017 - 07:09 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:10 PM

Hi,

Clearly, it doesn't happen. If it did, I'm sure my future-self would sent data to myself at this time right now (I'm not receiving any).

Clearly it doesn't happen?

 

You have proof of this? 

 

Have you observed tachyons? 



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:12 PM

Clearly it doesn't happen?
 
You have proof of this? 
 
Have you observed tachyons?


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We are going into imagination now. We haven't even cracked near the speed of light and we're aiming at particles faster than the speed of light? Come on.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:16 PM

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We are going into imagination now. We haven't even cracked near the speed of light and we're aiming at particles faster than the speed of light? Come on.

Astrophysicists claim that superluminal communication is a necessity if interstellar space travel is ever to be realized. 



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:19 PM

Astrophysicists claim that superluminal communication is a necessity if interstellar space travel is ever to be realized.


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Interstellar communication can be done through gravity as well. Superluminal isn't a necessity. Would you like me to evaluate on how it's possible through gravity? I'd be more than welcome to explain. It seems interesting.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:50 PM

Let me guess, wormholes.


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Clearly not. Would you like me to evaluate?

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:52 PM

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Clearly not. Would you like me to evaluate?

Sure. 



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:56 PM

Sure.

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Talking upon facts, the higher the gravity, the slower time moves for you compared to the rest of the universe. Increase your gravity and you can get a radio wave which would've usually taken a year to deliver in a matter of hours. A more detailed visualization of this is provided in the movie 'Interstellar' and this scientific research was later on verified as correct by a famous physicist.

To be honest, you can experience this at the ISS space station. The difference isn't large because earth's gravity is 0.8 while in space it is approximately 0G (not 0G exact - proven in a previous post of mine : http://www.sciencefo...ro-gravity-0-g/). The difference in time would be that a minute here would be 0.2 minutes there, meaning that 5 minutes here is 1 minute there.

On the grand-scale; if you're near a planet which is near a black hole, where the gravity of the black hole would be 600G and the planet having a 0.8G gravity similar to earth, a minute there would be 590.2 minutes here. 600G is the gravity of a small black hole just so you know, a giant one like in the middle of the Milky Way would have a gravity force of over 10,000G. Be near that and every minute there would be a week here.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:18 PM

Not true at all. Were you watching Interstellar lately? 
 
Relativistic velocity is responsible for the time dilation effect in which you're referring to, so that water planet in the movie Interstellar experienced some extreme time dilation because it was orbiting a black hole sun, at its distance it was circling that body close to the speed of light. That's why one minute there was equal to years off-world, not because it had super high gravity itself. You actually have time dilation in reverse, if you generate spatial-temporal distortions (which, again, is exactly what I'm talking about when I refer to superluminal communication) you're going to speed up signals only relative to yourself. 
 
And time dilation does not offer us the ability to communicate faster than light.


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The physicist himself said it was due to gravity and it's been proven time and time again, it is because of that. It wasn't the planet's gravitational field causing the time anomaly, but instead, the gravitational field of the black hole.

It does not allow you to communicate at the speed of light, however allows you to send Morse-code (Low-Frequency Waves) in a second to something being affected by approximately 15G.

Please correct your research.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:20 PM

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The physicist himself said it was due to gravity and it's been proven time and time again, it is because of that. It wasn't the planet's gravitational field causing the time anomaly, but instead, the gravitational field of the black hole.

It does not allow you to communicate at the speed of light, however allows you to send Morse-code (Low-Frequency Waves) in a second to something being affected by approximately 15G.

Please correct your research.

Hi,

Talking upon facts, the higher the gravity, the slower time moves for you compared to the rest of the universe. Increase your gravity and you can get a radio wave which would've usually taken a year to deliver in a matter of hours. A more detailed visualization of this is provided in the movie 'Interstellar' and this scientific research was later on verified as correct by a famous physicist.

To be honest, you can experience this at the ISS space station. The difference isn't large because earth's gravity is 0.8 while in space it is approximately 0G (not 0G exact - proven in a previous post of mine : http://www.sciencefo...ro-gravity-0-g/). The difference in time would be that a minute here would be 0.2 minutes there, meaning that 5 minutes here is 1 minute there.

On the grand-scale; if you're near a planet which is near a black hole, where the gravity of the black hole would be 600G and the planet having a 0.8G gravity similar to earth, a minute there would be 590.2 minutes here. 600G is the gravity of a small black hole just so you know, a giant one like in the middle of the Milky Way would have a gravity force of over 10,000G. Be near that and every minute there would be a week here.

Not true at all. Were you watching Interstellar lately? 

 

Relativistic velocity is responsible for the time dilation effect in which you're referring to, so that water planet in the movie Interstellar experienced some extreme time dilation because it was orbiting a black hole sun, at its distance it was circling that body close to the speed of light. That's why one minute there was equal to years off-world, not because it had super high gravity itself. You actually have time dilation in reverse, if you generate spatial-temporal distortions (which, again, is exactly what I'm talking about when I refer to superluminal communication) you're going to slow down signals relative to the rest of the universe, not speed them up, unless you're going faster than light and experience negative time, like when Cooper entered the Event Horizon of the black hole in Interstellar. When you go past the event horizon spatial distortions are superluminal (which is why light gets trapped and time loses it's causal meaning within the singularity of a black hole). Superluminal communication is not possible without distorting space time, and interstellar communication is delayed for millions of years if you're just on the other side of the Milky Way. Relativistic time dilation doesn't change a thing. 


Edited by Super Polymath, 21 April 2017 - 09:21 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:22 PM

Not true at all. Were you watching Interstellar lately? 
 
Relativistic velocity is responsible for the time dilation effect in which you're referring to, so that water planet in the movie Interstellar experienced some extreme time dilation because it was orbiting a black hole sun, at its distance it was circling that body close to the speed of light. That's why one minute there was equal to years off-world, not because it had super high gravity itself. You actually have time dilation in reverse, if you generate spatial-temporal distortions (which, again, is exactly what I'm talking about when I refer to superluminal communication) you're going to slow down signals relative to the rest of the universe, not speed them up, unless you're going faster than light and experience negative time, like when Cooper entered the Event Horizon of the black hole in Interstellar. When you go past the event horizon spatial distortions are superluminal (which is why light gets trapped and time loses it's causal meaning within the singularity of a black hole). Superluminal communication is not possible without distorting space time, and interstellar communication is delayed for millions of years if you're just on the other side of the Milky Way. Relativistic time dilation doesn't change a thing. 
 
And time dilation does not offer us the ability to communicate faster than light.


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You just copy-pasted the same thing?

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:25 PM

Hi,

You just copy-pasted the same thing?

No. That's a completely different response.

 

Anyway, when you're referring to those scenes in Interstellar, the only time they SAVE time is by entering an event horizon where Cooper talking to his daughter in the past:

 

 

All I'm saying is that you're referring to superluminal communication as well, and in the exact same way I was in post 161. 


Edited by Super Polymath, 21 April 2017 - 09:26 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:28 PM

No. That's a completely different response.
 
Anyway, when you're referring to those scenes in Interstellar, the only time they SAVE time is by entering an event horizon where Cooper talking to his daughter in the past:
 

 
All I'm saying is that you're referring to superluminal communication as well, and in the exact same way I was in post 161.


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Ah, I see. Correct.

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:44 PM

Femtotech isn't quite ftl either. 

 

Kugelblitz age, no more than 300 years out I'd imagine.

 

From Einstein to Casimir, to Philly Exp, to that gem pdf. 

 

EH Angular momentum, femtotech might be tough enough to endure the tug of an EH vortex, enough to support a centrifuge for the construction of "cat state" crafts. At least until evaporation. Now I know why CraigD told me you'd need a PA the size of a galaxy for a matter-antimatter annihilation nuke powerful enough to blind an onlooker from Mars when I was gardamorg, that's exactly what an artificial BH evaporation that lasts for any significant duration looks like, & in a way, that's what a Kugelblitz engine is, a Type III Civ's particle accelerator. 


Edited by Super Polymath, 10 May 2017 - 09:03 PM.