What you are describing has nothing to do with me whatsoever and is not a perception that someone could possibly have of me in real life, which is partly what this thread is about.
In real life, I present an interesting and perhaps original idea and the result is much different. Some people who are more socially oriented try to disagree but are unable to provide as convincing arguments and/are reduced to using debate fallacies which a person can easily be called on. (Like asking "are you afraid of what I have to say?" when a person tries to talk over you) The more capable people either debate in a clearly objective fashion or agree that I have a point. These people know their own self worth, and so are not emotionally "reactive" to what I have to say.
In real life, those socially oriented intellectuals are just small, easily overcome hurdles to overcome to pursue the idea with more competent and objective people.
On this forum, those same people have been empowered in such a way as to prevent any truly meaningful discussion to take place. The empowerment in question is totally arbitrary and dependent on manipulation of the medium of communication, and results in an inability to get past the stage of calling the more socially oriented participants on their use of debate fallacies.
Discussions progress like this:
User: I claim X
SOI: OMG no reference for 2+2=4 neg rep neg rep infraction omg BAND!!
User: ^authority/ad hominem fallacy ^circular reasoning
XX - this user is annoying be wary
SOI 2: OMG sezing he use fallacy is uncivil!! neg rep neg rep infraction omg BAND!!
++++++ - this user knowz it all, always listen
User: Hmm what is that one straw man for misinterpreting a fallacy claim as an attack?
xxxxx - this user sux OMG don't listen to hims!!!!
SOI 3: Thats wrong cause noone agrees!
User: That is band wagon falla...
- This user has been banned and can no longer post here.
So yeah real discussion can't really take place as long as fallacy users are empowered in this arbitrary manner, but that has nothing to do with me it is an attribute of the forum.
What you said is true, if a time dilation takes place.
In general, proof is asked for those things which seem, (excuse the expression) out of place, and ambiguous in general logic of the average board user.
The average board user, is usually open to ideas, and are willing to modify them when faced with a strong view point, or a convincing proof, and has some basic science back ground, for simple proofs, and mostly they have scientific temperment.
Hence they may use google (or similar) first, and then post here if they did not find any satisfactory explaination.
Usually, when people feel the need to have more proof in their hands before making a well thought out reply, which will usually contain either an question, approval/dis approval (usually) with reasons, they ask the post author to provide with some links (which are mostly external) or the post author has the ability to use accepted logic, to provide reasoning.
for example, say a proof in math is there, which the community is not aware of, then you are free to post a link where you found the proof, or you can use [math] LA_E^TX[/math] to do it in your thread, and show us how you arrived at your conclusion.
similar methods can be approached for proof in various other topics, dealt here in Hypography.
If you dont want criticisms of all kinds Hypography is probably not the place for you.
You can add aline saying " only productive discussions please" at the end of your thread, if you want.
But my opinion is, all discussions are simulating, marked by the chinese proverb,
"He who asks is a fool for 5 minutes, he who doesnt ask, is a fool for ever ".
As i said in my post before, the post count merely adds to your reputation power.
50 points give you one rep power point, and for every 50 posts or so.
hence you have to have approximately 2500 posts, before you inflict 1 rep point difference, to some one.
here with apologies, my full understanding of the reputation system is not achieved, and in case of any false statement, any admin or mod , please edit this post and inform me of the statement, via pm if permissible, as the discussion of the rep system statistics would deviate from th e purpose of the thread.
Now, surely a person would not post 2500 posts just for neg repping another person, even if he does so, he would be much more wiser on how hypography functions and his knowledge would have been incremented.
indirectly, he is converted to a productive member of Hypography.
As i have mentioned in my post before, a person who explains his post in more detail and that too correctly, will have people repping him more for his small no of posts, and this accelerates him further up the rep ladder then a person who claws his way up via post counts.
as i have mentioned before, reputation is nothing but a superficial mark on a person, and people tend to read the post of the person more than to look at his reputation and walk away.
In the end, you are looked upon by your thought processes, then your rep boxes to see what kind of person you are.
I ask apologies to the lack of continuity of the thought flows in this post, as i have written this thread in a hurry.
EDIT: The groups you refer to if they are those of the moderators and administrators, then you may want to acknowledge the fact that not every person who uses this board for a long time may not become that member of the group.
the admission procedures are very stringent, and only the users with the right temperment and other requirements is chosen to represent hypography.
This if needs better explaination, may be carried forward by another member, of the aforementioned groups, as they surely have first hand knowledge of that which is being discussed here, perhaps in another means of communication,(if that seems fit) as this again deviates from the current topic of discussion of the threads