kingwinner Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 In general, which of the gases, N2, CO, and H2, would you expect to behave the most and least ideally? I have no idea how to determine this...can someone help me? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boerseun Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 A good question, actually. But it depends which 'ideal gas' you're talking about. There are Fermi ideal gases, Boltzman ideal gases and Maxwell-Boltzman ideal gases, amongst others - all of which are ideal under a certain set of parameters like pressure and such. But one requirement for an ideal gas is that there are no intermolecular interactions, so I suspect the closest approximation to the 'ideal' gas would probably be Helium. It's inert, and after Hydrogen the simplest gas. Just a guess, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 The difference between real and ideal gases is: 1- No interactions other than collision between gas molecules.2- The volume of the gas molecules is much smaller than the spaces between the molecules. So, the larger the gas molecule, and greater the forces between them, the more non-ideal will the gas be. I would expect hydrogen, but apparently nitrogen is the most ideal of the lot. That too until about 200 bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Er, PS: I did not see Boersuen's post while I made mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qfwfq Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I suspect King meant what you meant, just basic kinetic theory of gas. [math]PV = nRT[/math] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthepon Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Yeah, and the ideality factor of Z included, [math]Z = \frac {PV}{nRT}[/math] , it being one for a truly ideal gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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