Is All Evidence Empirical?

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  On 6/4/2017 at 5:00 AM, Turtle said:

Yes you do.

How so ?

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  On 6/4/2017 at 5:12 AM, Turtle said:

Nunya.

Do you fear me turtle ?

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  On 6/4/2017 at 5:24 AM, Turtle said:

No it doesn't.

Then what is the fear ?

[Buffy]

  On 6/4/2017 at 4:55 AM, current said:

If you run into a wall , no senses .

 

You get no where .

 

Well where you get is to the wall from where ever you were. That's somewhere! :cheer:

 

Now I don't know about you, but normally if I run into a wall, I do indeed sense something. 

 

Are you saying if you run into a wall, you don't sense anything at all? Nothing?

 

Do you think other people sense something? Or is their ability to sense something irrelevant?

 

 

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish, :phones:

Buffy

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  On 6/4/2017 at 5:40 AM, Buffy said:

Well where you get is to the wall from where ever you were. That's somewhere! :cheer:

 

Now I don't know about you, but normally if I run into a wall, I do indeed sense something. 

 

Are you saying if you run into a wall, you don't sense anything at all? Nothing?

 

Do you think other people sense something? Or is their ability to sense something irrelevant?

 

 

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish, :phones:

Buffy

What is the theory ? No senses

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I tried to convey my point in my post #37 in reference to your post #36.

[Buffy]

  On 6/4/2017 at 5:59 AM, current said:

I tried to convey my point in my post #37 in reference to your post #36.

 

Your complete contribution in post #37 was "Well lets go back to your post # 34."

 

I'm sorry, but it's not really clear to me that you're conveying anything there. You need to actually say what your comment is about my post #34, not just say "let's go back to (it)"...

 

Don't you think?

 

 

Me and my arrow, :phones:

Buffy

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Back to post # 35

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  On 6/4/2017 at 6:10 AM, Turtle said:

No.

No

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All evidence is empirical .

[Buffy]

Post #35

 

  On 6/4/2017 at 3:03 AM, current said:

So experience needs theory to be real ?

 

Ah, yep.

 

 

Experience by itself teaches nothing... Without theory, experience has no meaning. Without theory, one has no questions to ask. Hence, without theory, there is no learning, :phones:

Buffy

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  On 6/4/2017 at 6:20 AM, Buffy said:

Post #35

 

 

 

Ah, yep.

 

 

Experience by itself teaches nothing... Without theory, experience has no meaning. Without theory, one has no questions to ask. Hence, without theory, there is no learning, :phones:

Buffy

Is that really true ?

 

 

But what of the experience of NDE ? (near death experience ) . Questions ?

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  On 6/4/2017 at 6:28 AM, Turtle said:

No it's not.

True my post # 57

[Buffy]

  On 6/4/2017 at 6:27 AM, current said:

Is that really true?

 

Yep.

 

 

  On 6/4/2017 at 6:27 AM, current said:

But what of the experience of NDE ? (near death experience ) . Questions ?

 

Dear, without theory, NDE's are just *ghost stories*...

 

Without theory, you'll continue to run into walls, fall down stairs, and piss people off because you've formed no *theories* about your actions resulting in your *experience* of broken bones and ridicule.

 

 

Do you know the difference between education and experience? Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don't, :phones:

Buffy

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  On 6/4/2017 at 6:33 AM, Buffy said:

Yep.

 

 

 

 

Dear, without theory, NDE's are just *ghost stories*...

 

Without theory, you'll continue to run into walls, fall down stairs, and piss people off because you've formed no *theories* about your actions resulting in your *experience* of broken bones and ridicule.

 

 

Do you know the difference between education and experience? Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don't, :phones:

Buffy

There many Dr. That think NDE is real . And have experienced first hand .

Edited June 4, 2017 by current

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  On 6/4/2017 at 6:45 AM, Turtle said:

No there aren't. No they haven't.

Ignornance is your bliss

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  On 6/4/2017 at 6:48 AM, Turtle said:

No.

Yes