Guest liliangrn Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Hi Penny, You've got me rather curious as to what you are talking about. An explanation to any universal unknowns is an exceptional claim. My theory never claimed to do anything like that. Can you give me an idea of when we can expect to hear more about it? Josephine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 our theory cannot be disproven and it solves any universal unknowns. This is an outrageous claim. Please back it up with some kind of proof. Then again, it's good joke - a theory that solves any universal unknowns. (Otherwise known as religion). ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liliangrn Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Hey Tormod (Sorry about the miss- spelling I'm a bit dyslexic at times) This is a question for you or anyone else: At what exact moment can you calculate that physics will kill your imagination?I would just like to know so I can feel it kick in. I'm just kidding.Seriously, though, perhaps the claim is a little overstated. Aren't you a little curious? Well I am. Josephine ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qfwfq Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Good Grapes, this has become entertaining... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Seriously, though, perhaps the claim is a little overstated. Aren't you a little curious? I hear outrageous claims all the time, Josephine. This one is simply...not worth commenting upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liliangrn Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 So why DID you make a comment?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liliangrn Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Look Tormod, Penny's 19. Penny and her friend collaborated on a theory that (she claims) explains any unknowns. We do not even know what the theories are and already you are asking for proof (You are unbelievably laughable). Whether it proves anything, at all, has already been made up in your mind. Science is definately not about killing a persons passion to think. There is absolutely no need to be rude about it. I personally welcome Penny and would love to hear her theories. That is if she would be willing to share them with us. I mean, come on Tormod, did you have such a theory at that age? I'd certainly bet you didn't. Josephine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Penny and her friend collaborated on a theory that (she claims) explains any unknowns. Yes. Which is an impossibility. No theory can explain "any unknowns". That was in fact proven by Goedel with his Incompleteness theorem in 1931. We do not even know what the theories are and already you are asking for proof She has posted 1 post which made an extraordinary claim. That requires extraordinary proof. If you wonder what scientific proof is I welcome you to search our forums for discussions about it. Asking for proof is one of the most important parts of science, and one of the most basic things everyone should do. Nothing is a theory if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny - by using the scientific method of testing and falsification. You might want to read our FAQ:http://hypography.com/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item Especially point 1) under "How should I behave?". (You are unbelievably laughable). Thank you very much. Do you know who I am? Thought not. Whether it proves anything, at all, has already been made up in your mind. And you know this how? Science is definately not about killing a persons passion to think. There is absolutely no need to be rude about it. I personally welcome Penny and would love to hear her theories. That is if she would be willing to share them with us. I would also love to hear her theories before I get all exited about it. I was not rude - I was commenting on the fact that there is nothing to comment upon, which you did not seem to realize. I mean, come on Tormod, did you have such a theory at that age? I'd certainly bet you didn't. I fail to see how this has any bearing on the issue. But I did read Carl Sagan's Cosmos at the age of 12, if it has any interest to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qfwfq Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 No theory can explain "any unknowns". That was in fact proven by Goedel with his Incompleteness theorem in 1931.Excellent point, it hadn't even crossed my mind!!! If you rake number theory into your formal system, you can construct a proposition that can't be proven true or false; if you add an axiom so that it can, another such proposition can be constructed; if you add yet another axiom, yet another proposition...................................... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liliangrn Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Do you know who I am? I know who you are and that means I should shut my mouth. Good for you Tormod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Do you know who I am? I know who you are and that means I should shut my mouth. Good for you Tormod. No, it is not good for me. I am simply asking you not to tell me what to think and how I should feel about science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest liliangrn Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Have your group. DictaTOR/MODerator. I hear the rumbles of thunder clouds in the distance. It doesn't take a genious to run a forum on the internet. I just found out about the internet this morning. Gee..it's all moving too fast for me. It's been nice meeting everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 what's a genious? :note:sorry :X i had so say something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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