lindagarrette Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Its a total cult. Read my posts above. Ms. Rand was really popular in my crowd in high school, but we all seemed to walk away from it assuming she was holding objectivism up to ridicule, rather than promoting it. Its only when you read some of her biographical info that you start to understand that she actually thought that the Tooheys of the world should be idolized! :) They're fun to razz tho. Kinda like trying to convert a Moonie, but they tend to be a bit more intellectual so it can be a challenge.... Cheers,Buffy Yeah, I'm back. Watch out! I sort of knew I was getting into a hornet's nest although some of the posts were awfully dumb and non-compliant. One of my comments suggested similarities between Freud and Rand's theories of ego, and another was a question about why collective nouns (furniture) and general references (a city) are considered to be "concepts." Those and others were not answered, just rejected. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindagarrette Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 objectivism somehow neglects any views of psychology that human behavior is environmentally conditioned. Selfish desires are highly likely influenced by an objectivistic worldview. Agreed. There was a lot of "truth" proposed in the forum, based primarily on the Rand "bible." I agree that people are motivated first by their own needs, but there are many causes for their behaviour. Neuroscience and psychology are getting close to explaining a lot but the Objectivists are not open to new knowledge. That's cult thinking (or nonthinking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 One of my comments suggested similarities between Freud and Rand's theories of ego...Ha ha! Yeah, and that must have driven them nuts: Freud basically says that ego has to be tempered by id and superego in order to avoid being sociopathic, while the Objectivists think that in the ideal, the ego would overpower the other two. If you really want to razz them, ask about the similarities between Objectivism and Dianetics.... :) Cheers,Buffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindagarrette Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Ha ha! Yeah, and that must have driven them nuts: Freud basically says that ego has to be tempered by id and superego in order to avoid being sociopathic, while the Objectivists think that in the ideal, the ego would overpower the other two. If you really want to razz them, ask about the similarities between Objectivism and Dianetics.... :) Cheers,BuffyNo way! Besides, I ducked out already. Didn't want to subject myself to even more warped thinking than I find day to day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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