GAHD Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 also I remember something about the 10% statement from when I was younger, I beleive it had more to do with memory and memory capacity than actual thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 there are infinite Parallell universes, right?which have infinite combinations. but the chance that our universe is like today = 1 out of infinity. which is zero!!!! that means its impossible to have this universe today? or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctus Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I think you forgot the probability in your thinking, every universe has a certain probability to be like ours, if the number of parallel universes tends to infinity, then the probability to find an universe like ours tends to 1.At least that is what I understood about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted April 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Or you could think of it in another way: If there are an infinite amount of universes out there, they will all have slightly different properties. Even extremely small changes in the contants of nature (like the alpha constant, or the strength of the weak and strong forces) could mean that atoms never form or that stars die out too quickly. So, in fact, that we find ourselves in this universe which is so finely tuned for life is a consequence. Because we could not live in any of the other universes. This is basically what the "anthropic principle" says...but beware that the "anthopic" in that term does not mean "human", but "life as we know it". Tormod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lou Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 hmmm, i have a new idea here. there are infinite parallell universes there, and that means there infinite universers having the exact same stats and different stats. which means the probability is = infinity/infinity.................which is a.............problem number................ anyway, thx, now i have a better understanding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD27 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 but also think, how much electricity passes all over your brain when you have one sngle thoguht? perhaps that is how our momories, thoughts, movments, everything, all of the orders our brain sends, perhaps it is sent in electrical pulses....that sounds quite amazing to me. maybe that is why we think so fast. perhaps, the smaller the rbain, does not mean the smarter the animal. perhaps the size of the electrical impulses means the smarter the person. then yes, you have certain areas that do certain things. if one is bigger than another, as they showed that is why einstein was so smart. so, someone who has a really big brain, that means everything in teh brain is bigger than normal, and a relatively smaler body, sot hat the brain doesn't have to work as hard to make it do the things it needs to do, and the electrical impulses are larger, maybe that could explain why "aliens" are so much more intelligent than us. i mean, why would another livable planet start before ours? the universe started at the same time. everywhere. no matter if it is billions of years old or 6,000 years old, the entire universe started at one specific time, or relatively close to that. and so maybe the bigger heads, brains, and electrical pulses made it where these aliens could gain knowledge enough to surpass us. maybe if we could learn how to do that...i wouldn't like to ahve a big head, but, after a few years of everyone doing it, it'll be normal by then , imagine the possibilities. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Einstein had a smaller than average brain. Many people have tried to show that brain size plays a role, but to my knowledge none of these studies are conclusive, whereas some studies have shown that there is no such link. An electrical impulse is just that. I don't think the amount of energy it carries changes its function. But then again I'm not a brain specialist. I know mine needs some sleep now (it's 0:45am in Norway now). Tormod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted June 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Er, that previous post by "Jenny" was posted by me...logged in as my daughter just to test and for some reason could not log out again. Tormod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD27 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 oh, well, lol, sry for you. lol. smaller. well, actually, come to think of it, you're right. i still think that electrical impulses are what sends information from one point to another. what would be the point of having electrical impulses if they didn't do just that? you know how scientists say they can send information through using electricity? i think our brains really do that. it sends information from one part of the brain to the otehr, and then that particular section of the brain uses that information to do whatever it does. i think the electrical impulses is jsut a faster way to get things done. think about it. if every single order sent from one part of the brain to the other had to work its way around other parts of the brain, for one, it would have a great possibility of getting al mixed up. you tell your hand to scratch your head, and you end up kicking your physical education teacher in the rear end. definately not something you want to do. so, if, like airplanes, good analogy here. instead of us traveling from one point to anotehr through other points, which there again leaves the possibility of a greater chance of getting misdirected to the wrong spot, you can travel over it all and get to our destinateion much faster, adn not have to worry as much about being misdirected. i think electrical pulses make a very big diference when it comes to things like tht. and, to clear up one question that jsut hit me, airplanes also have to be schedualed plots, if the run into each other, KABBBOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!! oopps, big mistake. on the otehr hand, electrical impulses work at near the speed of light. is that why we are able to move the way we do? think about it, your heart is pumping, licver working, skin protecting, imune sytem on guard, lungs bringing in oxyben and processing what it needs and sending the rest back, and then you have all the otehr things you do. you know your body never stops moving until it's dead? i wonder why? your fingers always twitch. toes, mouth, you roll over, the hair on your body is constantly giving signals. for these signals to reach the brain fast enough to even amount for something, they have to be lightning fast. no better way to do that than electrical impulses, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Originally posted by: CD27i still think that electrical impulses are what sends information from one point to another. what would be the point of having electrical impulses if they didn't do just that? you know how scientists say they can send information through using electricity? i think our brains really do that. That the body and brain communicates via impulses was discovered in the late 1600s by Thomas Willis (Carl Zimmer: Soul Made Flesh http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0434010464/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/026-4323155-1217234). He called these impulses animal spirits. When electricity was discovered in the 1700s it was realised (although not immediately) that the "animal spirits" were in fact electrical impulses that traveled along the nerves. So nothing new here. But we're straying off topic - this one is about "parallell universes". Tormod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD27 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 okay, one last comment? lol, i really didn't know that about electrical impulses. anyways, about parallel universes. quite an interesting topic. i wonder, could perhaps all universes, even parallel universes, and all dimensions, really be one thing? like a mixture? as said in my inol theory, that they are all mixed together. and that inol energy, electrical charges is what connects them. which would explain why EM waves are dominate over all other waves (why those are the one type of waves that EVERYTHING contains and everything exerts). look at it like this. if you were to mix two very different types of metals together. then their molecules would exist in each otehr's pores, is that understandable or do i need to explain it a different way? if they exist in each otehr's pores like that, it then leads to the thought..well, what about the cracks inbetween them? what is there? why do they hold together instead of falling apart. in metals, it is quite different, but when it comes to universes, they fluctuate in and out of each other. so perhaps your reality is realy a mixture of all realities. with dimensions, i belive that electrical pulses are what hold them together. it's like a "magnetic field" that keeps them from seperating. but they still flluctuate. inol energy/electrical pulses just pulls them back together again. i hope i'm not off subject again, but i feel this topic a very wide topic. it's like saying a topic on physics alone, that would allow for the discussion of many other things within physics, parallel universes are the same way, just a bit more narrow than simple physics. anyways, if you read in my theory, with dimensions being able to do that, be connected through each other's pores due to inol energy, then it should be possible to pulsate enough of that inol energy together, and make a whole instead of a pore, then it would be possible to time travel and so on. i belive time travel, or as tim once said in a post i read a while back, that he thinks when you time travl you're really moving into a parallel universe at a diferent level of time, so if you killed yourself there, it wouldn't affect the "you" here. perhaps if you used inol energy you could move back and forth through parallel universes to a future time, or a past time, via time travel? that wsn't off topc was it? Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD27 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 "Or you could think of it in another way: If there are an infinite amount of universes out there, they will all have slightly different properties. Even extremely small changes in the contants of nature (like the alpha constant, or the strength of the weak and strong forces) could mean that atoms never form or that stars die out too quickly. So, in fact, that we find ourselves in this universe which is so finely tuned for life is a consequence. Because we could not live in any of the other universes. This is basically what the "anthropic principle" says...but beware that the "anthopic" in that term does not mean "human", but "life as we know it". Tormod" ..um..er..i must disagree with you there tormod. what are the odds that that was by consequence? tehre is obviously quite a bit of design to our universe, and to all the rest. no universe is any worse designed than ours. it may be designed "differently", but that does not mean it was not designed correctly. no one ever said that life not like our own could not exist in other universes. perhaps there are otehr beings who live and speek, and breath (or not), and are intelligent, jsut like we are, but they could be formed in a different way, and their universe was designed a certain way so that their civiliztion would learn a certain way. nothing is wastfull but us. inperfect intelligent beings are always wastful. the universe itself, is not wastful. it does the things it does for a reason. ew may not understand it and think that it is wastful, but come on. when you go "number two" in the "john" you could cal it wastful, but other organisms end up decomposing it so that they can live. stars burn out for a reason. perhaps they burn out quicker in another universe, but it is for a reason. just imagine if a civilization of all the imperfect intelligent beings in the universe were one. they thought together. they made choices together. perhaps these "aliens" we keep seeing, the ones that are not from teh our very own government, really came from a parallel universe. their universe was made so that they could learn much quicker, or, maybe they are more "evolved" creatures of "us". there are so many endless possibilities, tormod, this is a very good topic. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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