Hello people. I have found this very interesting forum by accident after watching a doco on "This elegant universe" (String theory). Surfing to find out more I came across McC's TFT which in turn led me to this forum. By way of introduction I am totally a lay person being ignorant of your math, while however managing to grasp (I think) the gist of what some of you are saying. To be honest I was hoping to find out more about TFT before trying to obtain at considerable expense and bother. I too would have liked to read the book before passing comment. Alternatively I am wading through this thread to get an idea of what it contains to justify my purchase. I have decided possibly unfairly not to bother. What influences my thinking is that if one simple thing is wrong with an idea then....good bye, back to the cosmic drawing board. If true that the idea is, that everything is expanding, however different materials expand at different rates depending on their density, then surely Blind Freddy can see that we are in a lot of trouble, or would have been many Moons ago. Anyway could it not be said that if an object was lifted off the surface of a mass (where good old fashioned gravity was nowhere to be felt) it would stay where it was quite happily watching the other mass and itself expanding without feeling the need to wait for the larger mass to catch up with it, ie fall back to the surface? More especially if the larger mass just happened to be spinning, poor old smaller mass would be constantly be bouncing. Being thrown off then being caught up by big old nasty mass. Sooooo...back to conventional theory as I understand it. The Earth sucks. However I thought it was the whole planet as a mass, not some magic spot somewhere in the middle. If this is correct then our experience of gravity might be different on the surface than say 10 or 20 miles deep. Where I am coming from is that the proposal that a hole right through the planet would cause something dropped in it to oscillate ad infinitum from one surface to the other,(saw this somewhere) might be wrong. On the surface anywhere the complete mass of the planet would surely be in effect...downwards.I would like to know if any measurements of simply the weight of a known control have been taken at the bottom of an extremely deep pit.Where I would have thought there would be now less mass below and more and more all around, the deeper the pit??. As such would something dropped through a hole right, through the planet, not in fact accelerate initially then be acted upon by more of the planets mass in all directions the deeper it went. Consequently possibly taking for ever to even get to dead centre, where it would stop. I would really like to know your thoughts on this principally as I have other notions to put depending on whether you consider me to be a complete moron or not. I did Google for the Tamarack experiment only to discover that it most likely is myth that it took place. The story however relates that two plum bobs at equal depths in the earth were not closer together as expected, rather they were further apart.Myth or not, if two plumb bobs were measured at equal depths would they not in fact perhaps be further apart, given the way they would be acted upon by the now (surrounding mass)? Please be gentle with me. Foot note....I saw a T shirt....."There's no such thing as gravity......The Earth Sucks!!!