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#290 GAHD

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Posted 30 October 2018 - 07:28 AM

I love how cognitive dissonance leads to wide swaths of insult and switching gears to other topics. Bravo.
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Posted 30 October 2018 - 09:11 AM

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Posted 30 October 2018 - 12:41 PM

I love how cognitive dissonance leads to wide swaths of insult and switching gears to other topics. Bravo.
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Well, I just couldn't leave the "Zionist" comment unnoticed.  

 

You are truly ignorant of the historical facts there.  And extremely racist.

 

What you are saying as a racist, is that because of a political party and of one leader, and the ideology of the era, where all scientists were applying the theories of eugenics, in all civilized countries, that the leader and his picked cabinet, are representative of all Germans.  Thats like saying that all Chinese are mass murderers because they are all little Chairman Mao's.

 

Or all Americans are idiots because Bush was an idiot.

 

 

Actually, what I had been thinking was that Had Einstein been Aryan, he and his theories would have been embraced by the Nazis instead of rejected.  The merits of an idea are not changed by the race, religion or gender of it's originators.



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Posted 30 October 2018 - 01:24 PM

Well, I just couldn't leave the "Zionist" comment unnoticed.  

 

Actually, what I had been thinking was that Had Einstein been Aryan, he and his theories would have been embraced by the Nazis instead of rejected.  The merits of an idea are not changed by the race, religion or gender of it's originators.

Indeed. There was a mass exodus of quantum physicists and chemists, stigmatised for practising "Jewish Physics", who if they had stayed might have ended up enabling Hitler to get the atom bomb before the Allies.

 

There was even, amusingly, an attempt to create a specifically "Aryan Physics", in which Starck (of the well-known Starck Effect) played an ignominious part.

 

Heisenberg, to his credit, stuck to his "Jewish physics" in spite of considerable harassment from the Nazis.


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Posted 30 October 2018 - 02:33 PM

Well, I just couldn't leave the "Zionist" comment unnoticed.  

 

Actually, what I had been thinking was that Had Einstein been Aryan, he and his theories would have been embraced by the Nazis instead of rejected.  The merits of an idea are not changed by the race, religion or gender of it's originators.

The "Nazis" did not reject Einsteins ideas, what makes you think that?   and if they had, it would have been for the same reason why every other scientist rejected Einstein's ideas, because the ideas were irrational.

Thats why he never relieved the Nobel prize for Special Relativity.    German, French, English, Dutch, and American Physicists all rejected Einsteins hypothesis widely. And they still do.

 

But you are correct, a scientific idea has no connection whatsoever with its author.  I don't care if a literal frog came up with some insight about how things work, if he can write it down, and it makes sense, its good to go.

 

Anyway, all this racist talk of Jewish Supremacy, is not helping anyone defend the errors and conflicts that exist in the Hypothesis of Special Relativity.

 

It seem like a good way to dodge the issues raised.

 

Explain how A>B and B>A.  

 

Until you can do that, and explain the myriad of issues that underly that paradox, then you have no hypothesis worth considering.


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Posted 30 October 2018 - 04:07 PM

 

Anyway, all this racist talk of Jewish Supremacy, 

Who, exactly brought up Zionists?  Who said anything about Jewish Supremacy?

 

What good does it do to cite evidence with someone who rejects evidence and instead blames it on conspiracy?



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Posted 30 October 2018 - 05:23 PM

Who, exactly brought up Zionists?  Who said anything about Jewish Supremacy?

 

What good does it do to cite evidence with someone who rejects evidence and instead blames it on conspiracy?

I brought it up, and its the belief that any criticism of a person or a government is automatically based on hate, if that person or government is "Jewish".

 

But despite the fact that I see connections with Zionism and the propagation of deceptive and erroneous claims in Science, History, Politics, and culture, that has nothing to do with the fact that no one here has given a decent rebuttal to the issues I have raised, most if not all of them are based on the work of a great many people over the last 100 years, who are specialists in their fields.

 

So don't make the claim that I reject your "evidence" because I also have certain beliefs about the activities of certain groups of people, my rejection is based solely on the weakness or ambiguous nature of your evidence. 

 

But worse that having weak, contradictory evidence, the problem remains with the hypothesis itself, and that's where I have directed my criticisms. 

 

Where is your smack down arguments that show that your hypothesis is more than a nonsensical collection of meaningless jargon?

 

Where is the explanation of how A>B but also B>A, which is what relativists claim?

 

I truly can't think of a single paragraph from the theory of Special Relativity where it is rationally, logically thought out.

 

Its self contradictory, the thought experiments used to explain it are just not even wrong... they are impossible.

 

You have failed to justify the hypothesis.  Period. End of debate. 





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