This is it.

[arkain101]

This could be it.

I had a bit of a theory go through my mind last night that seems to describe the electromagnetic spectrum and why mass can become energy and why energy can become mass, and why 4 times the energy is needed to increase a velocity of 2 times.

If we first imagine light is minute particles firing out of atoms. Atoms that are moving from the impacting with its other atoms in a group of particles causing a particle of light to be ejected at C.

First we ask, what is light, and or electromagnetic radiation. Well to us it is a frequency that hits the molecules on our eyes to create an image. But to space or a blind person it is an energy form that travels very quickly from one place to another untill it interacts with matter, which it then puts the energy where it came from into the energy of where it interacts next. So this particle we call light appears to be the reason for why heat energy is lost, as molecules hit eachother they continually fire off photons. The evidence here is that thermal energy or rather thermal photons are as visual as light if you learn to pick up the freqency. So light acts like a particle yet a wave, and is supposed to always be the same speed. If we imagine a tightly packed group of atoms in a peice of gold for example. They are locked into there chemical bond spots, but vibrate at super high occilations. Now if you focus on one atom for a moment and imagine it firing off photons in the same direction. So we picture an atom on paper shooting photons strait downwards. So this atom is virbrating around at a pretty constant speed, which we assume is the vibration of 30degrees celcius. so now we see that the photons leaving this atom are being fired from different posistions making it look like a wave of particles, but the wave length is narrow and long, because the atom is not that excited and is not firing off that many particles / sec, so the wave length is weak and long. Now as we start heating up the attom which really means bump if faster. Particles likewise get fired out more frequently in less time which makes it look like a denser wave with a shorter wavelength. Now we heat up the gold even more and now the gold begins shooting these particles at a freqency and wave length which is determined as infrared and is strong enough that the photons will be concentrated enough to affect the attoms on our skin and heat them up that we feel as heat. Now we heat up the atom even more yet and it fires off at an even higher frequency with a more concentrated wave of particles. At this point the material begins to look red to the eye. The material is excited enough that it can fire off photons frequently enough to become the first color on the spectrum red. So the atom is shooting more photons per second, but is also firing them with a higher ocillation, that at this point looks like a stream of water that someone is waving back and forth. Each time we heat the material the frequency and wave length becomes higher and shorter. (or otherwise thicker, more intense). So the color of the metal starts to appear to change to a more yellow color and that yellow frequency/wavelength causes even more exchange of energy to the matter around it (making us feel more heat emmit form this). So we keep following this pattern and notice that everytime we heat up the material more it follows the next spot on the spectrum. If we imagine a rocket engine, that is extreeemly hot, it emmits a frequency,wavelength of particles that looks blue to us.. So red is the coldest of photons, and blue is the hottest or, red is the less frequent /less concentrated / longer distance between photons and right up to blue which is the most frequent / more concentrated / shorter distance between photons. Next up is undetectable to the human eye but is the same thing. It is ultra violet. An even more intense frequency and shorter wave length that has the ability to transfer more energy to matter than the rest mentioned. We keep going up the spectrum and notice that the more we heat up this atom the more intense its photons become. The higher rate of fire the atom has with its ammo being photons. So All this energy you put into the material is used as the expelling of photons, So the energy you put into the material is radiated out to the matter around it. Eventually we excite this matterial so greatly that it starts virbrating near the speed of light and basically fires of a beam of photons where the wave length is almost non existant and the frequency it fires these photons is almost constant. Causing it to create nearly a wall around the material that pushes outwards heating up the matter around it to extreme tempetures. If you apply this thinking ot the nuclearbomb it shows how you can take this tightly woven material like uranium and squish the particles in it so intesntly that it heats up, or the atoms become more excited to the point that they begin to emmit photons so intensely that the material itself is blown to obliveration and the wall of energy expands blowing apart the housing of the bomb then right into the atmosphere expanding all the atoms in the air away from where the bomb occured, sending a shockwave through the atmosphere. Eventually these photons which are at the intestity we call gamma are soaked up in the atoms around it and passed on and on untill the frequency dies down to light then just heat. Then what is left of the uranium flies all over the place as single molecules, which are unstable, and the photon in the world around it overflow it and break apart the nucleus.

So I thought about this and said well what about microwaves. You put electricity (aka electrons) into a matterial that is at a cirtain tempeture and it causes even more electrons to be released at the freqency the material is virbrating at making an intense mircrowave that is able to heat water, cause electric charges to build up on conductive material. So light appears to be electrons, or forced out from an increase of electrons.

This would explain why redshift can occur. If you travel away from light at higher and higher speeds the freqency of the photons or the speed in which they enter your eye slows down enough to be interpreted as a difference frequency.

When you get an intense blast of light on your eyes, it can remain in your vision for some time as a false image. So the atoms in that part of your eye are "full" so to speak of electrons so when you look around it can not take on anymore electrons so the image in that spot appears black. Though when you close your eyes it is a faint signal to the brain that there is still some extra energy going in the molecules of that part of your eye.

 

Energy can become mass and mass can become energy but half of the mass is lost through energy and half of the energy is lost through mass.

[Erasmus00]

Dude, paragraph break.

-Will

[C1ay]

Did you know that MIT offers free courses in physics...

[rockytriton]

yea all three physics courses have video lectures too (physics I, II, and III that is)

[arkain101]

Strait from wikipedia.

Due to wave-particle duality, light simultaneously exhibits properties of both waves and particles. The precise nature of light is one of the key questions of modern physics.

 

So its a big question. This is a good answer.

I have studied physics.

 

If you imagine every time an atom bumps against another atom it emits a photon at C. The frequency of bumping is the frequency the particles are shot out from point A and B. Photon source B follows the distance behind photon source A according to the frequency of the bumps. Making a virtual wave length. The greater the vibration of the particle the greater rate the photons are released, and the shorter the distance of photon A and B creating causing the "radiation" to climb up the spectrum in relation to tempeture of virbratino frequency of the atoms.

[arkain101]

The amplitude of the "wave" would be directly related to the mass contained in shot A and shot B. So the more electrically charged the atom is the greater the amplitude it can release per bump.(Microwaves for example.)

Kinetic Energy of is equal to half of mass time Vsquared because half of the energy is lost through everysingle atom in the interaction releasing energy, the same energy that is applied.

 

For example. If you use thermal vision and have two 100kg objects that have a tempeture of -100 degrees celcius, you will see a blast of "energy" (electromagnetic energy) released when they hit. Half of the energy interaction is released as "heat" aka, (electromagnetic energy), that we see in our thermal vision, at the speed of C so even though there is not much mass released it is released at a great velocity which uses half the energy.

[arkain101]

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[CraigD]

If you imagine every time an atom bumps against another atom it emits a photon at C. The frequency of bumping is the frequency the particles are shot out from point A and B. Photon source B follows the distance behind photon source A according to the frequency of the bumps. Making a virtual wave length. The greater the vibration of the particle the greater rate the photons are released, and the shorter the distance of photon A and B creating causing the "radiation" to climb up the spectrum in relation to tempeture of virbratino frequency of the atoms.

You’re confusing Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, the distribution of wavelengths of photons emitted by one or more atoms, with the wavelengths of the photons themselves.

 

For a photon emitted in the way you’re describing, its wavelength, which is inversely proportional to its energy, is a function of the difference in energy between the atomic orbitals of the electrons emitting it. The time interval between a particular electron or an electron in a particular atom or collection of atoms determines the intensity, or magnitude of the light source, but has no effect on the wavelength of the light.

 

Were this not true, coherent, single-frequency light, such as that produced by cool hydrogen (eg: Balmer line radiation) and LASERs of all kinds, would not exist, and it would be possible to for the photoelectric effect to be produced simply by concentrating low-frequency light, such as inferred, on a small area of a photoelectric material.

[Erasmus00]

See now gravity can be explained as this.

 

An object in space releases electromagnetic radiation. The earth releases massive electro magnetic radatio. (thermal infrared).

 

The objects Ke is related to its velocity towards the earth. As the Energy is poured into the object it gains KE.

Just like an object that is losing KE is using up energy, expelling energy.

The object coming towards earth is taking on energy which causes the atoms to inhale electromagnetic radiaton increasing KE.

Just possibly.

 

Electromagnetic forces are divorced from gravitational. Blackbody radiation cannot account for gravity, as you claim. It isn't strong enough, and in most cases would provide a repulsize, not attractive, effect. You claim to have studied physics, but you haven't put any math to your theories.

-Will

[arkain101]

In this model, an atom is not a nucleus surrounded by orbiting electrons.

 

The model would be reorganized as Negetive electrons (containing many photons) would be the glue to the nucleous, and everything would be stuck together, where they equally repell and attract atoms next to eachother and the atom itself is glued together by Negative and postive groupings of protons and electrons.

In other words its the same deal, except there is not orbiting going on.

It could be described differently but we have not seen with our own eyes that electrons orbit nucleouses.

[Erasmus00]

In this model, an atom is not a nucleus surrounded by orbiting electrons.

 

The model would be reorganized as Negetive electrons (containing many photons) would be the glue to the nucleous, and everything would be stuck together, where they equally repell and attract atoms next to eachother and the atom itself is glued together by Negative and postive groupings of protons and electrons.

In other words its the same deal, except there is not orbiting going on.

It could be described differently but we have not seen with our own eyes that electrons orbit nucleouses.

 

While we haven't seen that electrons "orbit" nuclei, we have boat loads of data to support that hypothesis. It makes predictions. Your theory seems to be all conjecture and no experiment. You can't make any calculations, there is absolutely no math.

-Will

[arkain101]

I prefer logical theories. I dont beleive in time dialtion and mass increase with velocity.

 

If I knew how to work out this experiment I would.

 

Two objects in space 10kg each, near absolute zero degrees in tempeture, are on path for eachother at 10m/s. using a electromagnecti device that measures a long range of electromagnetic energy to observer the interaction. When the collision a blast of photons would be emmitted from the interation visible mainly as infered. Calculate the energy involved in the interaction, then take an estimation of how much electromagnetic energy was released by estimating its mass and calculate its Ke with 1/2(m*Csquared). If the energy relased in electromagnetic form is the same as the calculated energy contained in the moving bodies. We have an example that the reason only 1/2 the energy can be put to work because the other 1/2 is lost to elctromagnetic radiation.

[CraigD]

…The model would be reorganized as Negetive electrons (containing many photons) would be the glue to the nucleous, and everything would be stuck together …

See ” Rutherford scattering”.

 

The model you propose was tentatively accepted as late at the early 20th century, when Rutherford’s scattering experiment effectively “saw” the gross structure of the atom. After that, the “electrons embedded in the nucleus” model (sometime know as the Thomson model) was considered disproved by virtually everyone aware of the new work.

[arkain101]

The speed of light was measured from the 1600's up to the 1980's a dozen or more times by legit scientists untill it was finally accepted at its current unit.

I'd like to see some effort into checking the atoms structure before we call it final already. Its open minds that make discoveries.

[Erasmus00]

The speed of light was measured from the 1600's up to the 1980's a dozen or more times by legit scientists untill it was finally accepted at its current unit.

I'd like to see some effort into checking the atoms structure before we call it final already. Its open minds that make discoveries.

 

Rutherford scattering has been performed over and over again to measure all sorts of different things. For instance, a modern version of neutron scattering is often used to measure excitations in super fluids. X-ray scattering is used to probe molecular structures, etc.

 

Before you can decide wether or not you "like" modern physics, you need to learn it.

-Will

[arkain101]

I agree you have to understand somthing to prove it wrong.

 

Although, there is alot of confusion in current accepted thoeries. Light is still considered a particle -wave. That emmits from no where from a place held together by nothing.

[arkain101]

There is examples all over the place that show flaw in this relativity.

 

Particles in particle accelerators reach .9 C but dont seem to have anything close to infinate mass. If a particle gained mass as it sped up to C, it would have to gain momentum and momentum always remains the same.

 

There are places in the galaxy that are superhot, spinning extremely fast, and the atoms in these objects have to be getting close to C, so that would mean that the object would be falling behind in time, because all the atoms are experiencing hyper speeds time and time again.

 

If you assume there is no such thing as rest, you can exlude the number 0 for velocity. Then go on to say, no matter what you do, if you choose to double your velocity, it requires you to use 4 times the energy to accomplish this. The extra energy is said to be put into the mass but this can equally be explained that the 4times energy to double the velocity is lost to electromateic energy flying off the mass at C infanitly.. Not all the mass-force is put to use if you have light coming from a jet engine, you have billions and billions of photons flying off the matter at C in all direction , providing no assitance in providing force/thrust.