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# Gravity and Red shift

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Can the particle physics laws have effect on the larger scales.

Weak interaction and W+, W-, Z: Since they carry mass the weak interaction is Short Ranged.... h+/Mc is the greatest distance .... (book: An introduction to the Standard Model of Particle Physics, 2007, 2nd ed.).

So if a great Mass always makes every force to be Short ranged is it seen somehow in Astronomy too?

Greater the mass of the galaxy is the shorter is the range of its gravitational force?

So small particles only can  have long distance gravitational force. Let us think that is the reason why there is Red shift. At the distance of 1 billion light years of the earth there is no longer gravitational force of those galaxies that have big mass. But there is a gravitational force only of small masses objects.

Is It allways in every case so that:

Anything that carry mass can make the interaction force to be short ranged or is this only part of the particle physics.

I try later to write some more examples. Sorry, bout this lousy english.

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So if mass is 1000 kg then the distance of force affecting is only 1 m.

But if mass is 1 kg the distance of force to affect is 1000 m.

Where can this be seen?

The orbit of Mercury, the Hawkings radiation, Voyager anomaly, the Red shift, Quasars high Red shift because of small mass jets or .....???

I guess you can give examples to tell that it is not so. And of course you are right.

How about those 6 big galaxies that JWST just found. Are they so big because otherwise .....

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Is there any collapse at the gravitational force after One billion light years distance or not?

How can objects accelltrate so much in speed if the gravitational force have instant effect at any distance at the same amount of Power.

Of course the Universe is getting larger and distances too between the objects but .....

It is like Chaos if objects just keep on acceltrating without any ....

So I think that only small mass objects have the force but large mass objects does not have it there where the Chaos is. Or is it Simply because of the distances that are so vast after all????

Sorry, I really can not express in english enough thoughts about this lousy claim whitch have no sense of any kind anyway......

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9 hours ago, Diamonds said:

Can the particle physics laws have effect on the larger scales.

Weak interaction and W+, W-, Z: Since they carry mass the weak interaction is Short Ranged.... h+/Mc is the greatest distance .... (book: An introduction to the Standard Model of Particle Physics, 2007, 2nd ed.).

So if a great Mass always makes every force to be Short ranged is it seen somehow in Astronomy too?

Greater the mass of the galaxy is the shorter is the range of its gravitational force?

No, gravity is long range and the effect of gravity travels at c. The mass they are talking about is virtual mass of the force carrier particle not the mass of the particle and the mass of the "graviton, if it exists" would be 0

9 hours ago, Diamonds said:

So small particles only can  have long distance gravitational force. Let us think that is the reason why there is Red shift. At the distance of 1 billion light years of the earth there is no longer gravitational force of those galaxies that have big mass. But there is a gravitational force only of small masses objects.

Is It allways in every case so that:

Anything that carry mass can make the interaction force to be short ranged or is this only part of the particle physics.

I try later to write some more examples. Sorry, bout this lousy english.

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Does speed of light c, gravity and eccentricity have got some kind of connection?

Distance of planets: (1000 x)

Earth 1/2 c

Mars 3/4 c

Asteroids 1 1/2 c

Jupiter 2 1/2 c

Saturn 5 c

Uranus 10 c

Neptune 15 c

Pluto 20 c

Earth and Neptune have got almost round orbit. And they are only planets that have distance from sun Being very exact connection with the speed of light.

Earth 500 x c

Neptune 15000 x c

If gravity uses speed of light then 1/2 c is some kind of interesting value.

5 x c is 1 498 960 km and when we Divide c by 2 we also get 149896 km. If gravity needs to communicate back and forth with planets then it is obvious that 1/2 c is very important.

We see that those distances of planets are 5 c that is also 1/2 c (x10)  from each other: Pluto 20 c, Neptune 15 c, Uranus 10 c, Saturn 5 c.....

So there certainly is a connection between speed of light and gravity and even eccentricity .

Sorry that I can not Write any better.  Just check that Neptune distance from sun, speed of light and eccentricity. There is some kind of connection?

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6 hours ago, Diamonds said:

Does speed of light c, gravity and eccentricity have got some kind of connection?

Distance of planets: (1000 x)

Earth 1/2 c

Mars 3/4 c

Asteroids 1 1/2 c

Jupiter 2 1/2 c

Saturn 5 c

Uranus 10 c

Neptune 15 c

Pluto 20 c

Earth and Neptune have got almost round orbit. And they are only planets that have distance from sun Being very exact connection with the speed of light.

Earth 500 x c

Neptune 15000 x c

If gravity uses speed of light then 1/2 c is some kind of interesting value.

5 x c is 1 498 960 km and when we Divide c by 2 we also get 149896 km. If gravity needs to communicate back and forth with planets then it is obvious that 1/2 c is very important.

We see that those distances of planets are 5 c that is also 1/2 c (x10)  from each other: Pluto 20 c, Neptune 15 c, Uranus 10 c, Saturn 5 c.....

So there certainly is a connection between speed of light and gravity and even eccentricity .

Sorry that I can not Write any better.  Just check that Neptune distance from sun, speed of light and eccentricity. There is some kind of connection?

You've left out a few planets and added at least one...

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