Viktor Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Archaeology Confirms 53 people mentioned in the Bible https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/50-people-in-the-bible-confirmed-archaeologically/ Reliability of the Old Testament https://www.amazon.com/Reliability-Old-Testament-K-Kitchen/dp/0802803962/ref=pd_sbs_14_2/139-5771609-5718235?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0802803962&pd_rd_r=ae516d69-c664-4722-8fdf-f641d345932f&pd_rd_w=w0Iod&pd_rd_wg=3wrsR&pf_rd_p=ee4a13a5-1d19-4a45-a832-a74924eb9541&pf_rd_r=74PZ95YFR1VVRZ3GMTFW&psc=1&refRID=74PZ95YFR1VVRZ3GMTFW Dr James Hoffmeier Confirms the Exodus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKiCaab3jno&t=3577s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vhrK6Wczs&t=2096s William Propp on the exodus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TsppQ5UNY From The Smithsonian Museum https://2think.org/ssotb.shtml “On the other hand, much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories. These Biblical records can be and are used as are other ancient documents in archeological work. For the most part, historical events described took place and the peoples cited really existed. “ The New Testament Is Reliable as History Is The New Testament Reliable as History? https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Eyewitnesses-Gospels-Eyewitness-Testimony/dp/0802874312/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=0802874312&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/Can-Trust-Gospels-Peter-Williams/dp/1433552957/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/130-0517463-2658904?pd_rd_w=nFd4d&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=4TRJKZ32B2T3MQQ9EPSY&pd_rd_r=d44e0ec7-b76c-44d2-9feb-89a7a4f761bb&pd_rd_wg=Qtzdc&pd_rd_i=1433552957&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/Historical-Reliability-New-Testament-Evangelical/dp/0805464379/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/130-0517463-2658904?pd_rd_w=PCeg7&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=JPP0VDEV7F5NC714V0G1&pd_rd_r=4278ec63-79e6-4f65-8314-77a47a6d2596&pd_rd_wg=FXa0u&pd_rd_i=0805464379&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Documents-They-Reliable/dp/0802822193/ref=pd_sbs_3/130-0517463-2658904?pd_rd_w=kWzAA&pf_rd_p=690958f6-2825-419e-9c16-73ffd4055b65&pf_rd_r=JPP0VDEV7F5NC714V0G1&pd_rd_r=4278ec63-79e6-4f65-8314-77a47a6d2596&pd_rd_wg=FXa0u&pd_rd_i=0802822193&psc=1 Here are 4 examples of research that show it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vmedvil2 Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Viktor said: Archaeology Confirms 53 people mentioned in the Bible https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/50-people-in-the-bible-confirmed-archaeologically/ Reliability of the Old Testament https://www.amazon.com/Reliability-Old-Testament-K-Kitchen/dp/0802803962/ref=pd_sbs_14_2/139-5771609-5718235?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0802803962&pd_rd_r=ae516d69-c664-4722-8fdf-f641d345932f&pd_rd_w=w0Iod&pd_rd_wg=3wrsR&pf_rd_p=ee4a13a5-1d19-4a45-a832-a74924eb9541&pf_rd_r=74PZ95YFR1VVRZ3GMTFW&psc=1&refRID=74PZ95YFR1VVRZ3GMTFW Dr James Hoffmeier Confirms the Exodus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKiCaab3jno&t=3577s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vhrK6Wczs&t=2096s William Propp on the exodus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TsppQ5UNY From The Smithsonian Museum https://2think.org/ssotb.shtml “On the other hand, much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories. These Biblical records can be and are used as are other ancient documents in archeological work. For the most part, historical events described took place and the peoples cited really existed. “ The New Testament Is Reliable as History Is The New Testament Reliable as History? https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Eyewitnesses-Gospels-Eyewitness-Testimony/dp/0802874312/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=0802874312&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/Can-Trust-Gospels-Peter-Williams/dp/1433552957/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/130-0517463-2658904?pd_rd_w=nFd4d&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=4TRJKZ32B2T3MQQ9EPSY&pd_rd_r=d44e0ec7-b76c-44d2-9feb-89a7a4f761bb&pd_rd_wg=Qtzdc&pd_rd_i=1433552957&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/Historical-Reliability-New-Testament-Evangelical/dp/0805464379/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/130-0517463-2658904?pd_rd_w=PCeg7&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=JPP0VDEV7F5NC714V0G1&pd_rd_r=4278ec63-79e6-4f65-8314-77a47a6d2596&pd_rd_wg=FXa0u&pd_rd_i=0805464379&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Documents-They-Reliable/dp/0802822193/ref=pd_sbs_3/130-0517463-2658904?pd_rd_w=kWzAA&pf_rd_p=690958f6-2825-419e-9c16-73ffd4055b65&pf_rd_r=JPP0VDEV7F5NC714V0G1&pd_rd_r=4278ec63-79e6-4f65-8314-77a47a6d2596&pd_rd_wg=FXa0u&pd_rd_i=0802822193&psc=1 Here are 4 examples of research that show it is You believe in False Gods and False Religious texts. There are several reasons that the bible has no merit as a historical text one of which is the story of Noah's Ark basically the idea that 2 of every animal could fit on the ark is retarded, there are over 8.7 million species on the planet and a ship being the size of Noah's ark could never hold them all. The bible just spews out impossible stuff a lot that has no basis in reality thus the bible should not be considered a historical text but rather one of fantasy like a harry potter book. "The dimensions of Noah's ark in Genesis, chapter 6, are given in cubits (about 18-22 inches): length 300 cubits, breadth 50 cubits, and height 30 cubits. Taking the lower value of the cubit, this gives dimensions in feet of 450 x 75 x 45, which compares with 850 x 92 x 64 for the Titanic" There are other examples too of obviously false things in the bible like the bible says that you can take the blood of a bird and put it on your doorstep or something like that and it will cure leprosy which we all know the cure to leprosy is antibiotics, this shows that the Bible was written by ancient man that didn't know anything about how things work and not some deity. Bible Treatment In Leviticus 14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields. 8 “The person to be cleansed must wash their clothes, shave off all their hair and bathe with water; then they will be ceremonially clean. After this they may come into the camp, but they must stay outside their tent for seven days. 9 On the seventh day they must shave off all their hair; they must shave their head, their beard, their eyebrows and the rest of their hair. They must wash their clothes and bathe themselves with water, and they will be clean. 10 “On the eighth day they must bring two male lambs and one ewe lamb a year old, each without defect, along with three-tenths of an ephah[b] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, and one log[c] of oil. 11 The priest who pronounces them clean shall present both the one to be cleansed and their offerings before the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 12 “Then the priest is to take one of the male lambs and offer it as a guilt offering, along with the log of oil; he shall wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 13 He is to slaughter the lamb in the sanctuary area where the sin offering[d] and the burnt offering are slaughtered. Like the sin offering, the guilt offering belongs to the priest; it is most holy. 14 The priest is to take some of the blood of the guilt offering and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 15 The priest shall then take some of the log of oil, pour it in the palm of his own left hand, 16 dip his right forefinger into the oil in his palm, and with his finger sprinkle some of it before the Lord seven times. 17 The priest is to put some of the oil remaining in his palm on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering. 18 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed and make atonement for them before the Lord. 19 “Then the priest is to sacrifice the sin offering and make atonement for the one to be cleansed from their uncleanness. After that, the priest shall slaughter the burnt offering 20 and offer it on the altar, together with the grain offering, and make atonement for them, and they will be clean. 21 “If, however, they are poor and cannot afford these, they must take one male lamb as a guilt offering to be waved to make atonement for them, together with a tenth of an ephah[e] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, a log of oil, 22 and two doves or two young pigeons, such as they can afford, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 23 “On the eighth day they must bring them for their cleansing to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting, before the Lord. 24 The priest is to take the lamb for the guilt offering, together with the log of oil, and wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 25 He shall slaughter the lamb for the guilt offering and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 26 The priest is to pour some of the oil into the palm of his own left hand, 27 and with his right forefinger sprinkle some of the oil from his palm seven times before the Lord. 28 Some of the oil in his palm he is to put on the same places he put the blood of the guilt offering—on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 29 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed, to make atonement for them before the Lord. 30 Then he shall sacrifice the doves or the young pigeons, such as the person can afford, 31 one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering, together with the grain offering. In this way the priest will make atonement before the Lord on behalf of the one to be cleansed.” 32 These are the regulations for anyone who has a defiling skin disease and who cannot afford the regular offerings for their cleansing. Modern Treatment By Medicine link = https://www.cdc.gov/leprosy/treatment/index.html For these reasons and many more, the Bible is basically a fairy tale and not really good as a history text or as anything to put any stock into, especially the old testament. Edited January 1, 2022 by VictorMedvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktor Posted January 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 10:19 PM, VictorMedvil said: You believe in False Gods and False Religious texts. There are several reasons that the bible has no merit as a historical text one of which is the story of Noah's Ark basically the idea that 2 of every animal could fit on the ark is retarded, there are over 8.7 million species on the planet and a ship being the size of Noah's ark could never hold them all. The bible just spews out impossible stuff a lot that has no basis in reality thus the bible should not be considered a historical text but rather one of fantasy like a harry potter book. "The dimensions of Noah's ark in Genesis, chapter 6, are given in cubits (about 18-22 inches): length 300 cubits, breadth 50 cubits, and height 30 cubits. Taking the lower value of the cubit, this gives dimensions in feet of 450 x 75 x 45, which compares with 850 x 92 x 64 for the Titanic" There are other examples too of obviously false things in the bible like the bible says that you can take the blood of a bird and put it on your doorstep or something like that and it will cure leprosy which we all know the cure to leprosy is antibiotics, this shows that the Bible was written by ancient man that didn't know anything about how things work and not some deity. Bible Treatment In Leviticus 14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields. 8 “The person to be cleansed must wash their clothes, shave off all their hair and bathe with water; then they will be ceremonially clean. After this they may come into the camp, but they must stay outside their tent for seven days. 9 On the seventh day they must shave off all their hair; they must shave their head, their beard, their eyebrows and the rest of their hair. They must wash their clothes and bathe themselves with water, and they will be clean. 10 “On the eighth day they must bring two male lambs and one ewe lamb a year old, each without defect, along with three-tenths of an ephah[b] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, and one log[c] of oil. 11 The priest who pronounces them clean shall present both the one to be cleansed and their offerings before the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 12 “Then the priest is to take one of the male lambs and offer it as a guilt offering, along with the log of oil; he shall wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 13 He is to slaughter the lamb in the sanctuary area where the sin offering[d] and the burnt offering are slaughtered. Like the sin offering, the guilt offering belongs to the priest; it is most holy. 14 The priest is to take some of the blood of the guilt offering and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 15 The priest shall then take some of the log of oil, pour it in the palm of his own left hand, 16 dip his right forefinger into the oil in his palm, and with his finger sprinkle some of it before the Lord seven times. 17 The priest is to put some of the oil remaining in his palm on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering. 18 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed and make atonement for them before the Lord. 19 “Then the priest is to sacrifice the sin offering and make atonement for the one to be cleansed from their uncleanness. After that, the priest shall slaughter the burnt offering 20 and offer it on the altar, together with the grain offering, and make atonement for them, and they will be clean. 21 “If, however, they are poor and cannot afford these, they must take one male lamb as a guilt offering to be waved to make atonement for them, together with a tenth of an ephah[e] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, a log of oil, 22 and two doves or two young pigeons, such as they can afford, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 23 “On the eighth day they must bring them for their cleansing to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting, before the Lord. 24 The priest is to take the lamb for the guilt offering, together with the log of oil, and wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 25 He shall slaughter the lamb for the guilt offering and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 26 The priest is to pour some of the oil into the palm of his own left hand, 27 and with his right forefinger sprinkle some of the oil from his palm seven times before the Lord. 28 Some of the oil in his palm he is to put on the same places he put the blood of the guilt offering—on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 29 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed, to make atonement for them before the Lord. 30 Then he shall sacrifice the doves or the young pigeons, such as the person can afford, 31 one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering, together with the grain offering. In this way the priest will make atonement before the Lord on behalf of the one to be cleansed.” 32 These are the regulations for anyone who has a defiling skin disease and who cannot afford the regular offerings for their cleansing. Modern Treatment By Medicine link = https://www.cdc.gov/leprosy/treatment/index.html For these reasons and many more, the Bible is basically a fairy tale and not really good as a history text or as anything to put any stock into, especially the old testament. Listen, dum:Much of the bible is metaphor and allegory and not meant to be taken literally. A survey indicated that only 24% of Americans take the whole bible literally. Unless you are a Christian Fundamentalist, you don't either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vmedvil2 Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Viktor said: Listen, dum:Much of the bible is metaphor and allegory and not meant to be taken literally. A survey indicated that only 24% of Americans take the whole bible literally. Unless you are a Christian Fundamentalist, you don't either. Don't talk to me about your false beliefs and false gods I don't wanna hear it, everything about the bible is false. Edited January 2, 2022 by VictorMedvil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 20, 2022 Report Share Posted February 20, 2022 One of the gnostic writings try to estimate the value of truth in a different writings and cultures. I have changed it a little bit: 1. Philosophy and science - Platin 2. Hinduism - Diamond 3. Judaism - gold 4. Islam - Silver 5. Cristianity- bronze 6. Panteism, avesta - Iron 7. Naturalism etc. - clay 8. Ateism - stone 9. Teism - spirit, light So Judaism is in some respect near the truth but my opinion is that there are many lies in the bible meant just to comfort and spread some hope. Not to be taken seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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