Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 If a black hole is a compact object as the beginning of the universe, as it is said that light can not escape, if the universe had no light in the beginning? only many millions of years later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 If a black hole is a compact object as the beginning of the universe, as it is said that light can not escape, if the universe had no light in the beginning? only many millions of years later? This is the second time you have asserted this, do you understand that the two things are not the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Is wrong to think that a black hole spacetime is out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Is wrong to think that a black hole spacetime is out? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole Both space and time are thought to exist inside the event horizon of a black hole. BTW this is off topic, if you want to discuss the properties of black holes please start your own thread. Edited August 21, 2012 by Moontanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 This topic is available to discuss black holes, no? According to original poster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 This topic is available to discuss black holes, no? According to original poster? No it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 The original author black holes mentioned in the fourth paragraph, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 The original author black holes mentioned in the fourth paragraph, no? mentioning them doesn't give us free reign to hijack his thread with a discussion about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Original author has not proclaimed a response to this subject. Let's wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Original author has not proclaimed a response to this subject. Let's wait and see. Ti@NiS why are you so set on not starting your own thread? The rules clearly state what I have been saying is true. I am only trying to help you here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I am interested in these topics and their authors as you are. Why can not you and I discuss while the authors come. They decide for us, and you and I have joy doing science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I am interested in these topics and their authors as you are. Why can not you and I discuss while the authors come. They decide for us, and you and I have joy doing science. Because it is against the rules you agreed to when you signed on here... Edited August 21, 2012 by Moontanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti@NiS Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Mr. Paxton posits an interesting theory unheard of for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pincho Paxton Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I just noticed that this is split from my thread. The black holes would be created from the spacetime grain under pressure. Science sometimes refers to a spacetime grain structure, and sometimes you will hear about a spacetime froth. The froth, and the grain examples miss out quite a lot of physics, as they are just words. So let's add some physics. The grain structure in my theory is like hollow sand. Filling the hollow sand is a liquid made from scalar particles. The liquid can scale up to create pressure, and scale down to relive pressure. The scaling up is the inflation of spacetime, the expansion of the Universe, and the scaling down is the creation of black holes. These scalar particles of a sort of liquid have a very well known name... time. So spacetime is a hollow grain full of time.. spacetime. The bending of spacetime is actually the scaling of spacetime. If you create a black hole you scale spacetime down, but you also create a curve, which is a bend. You have the bending of spacetime. Spacetime scales down because of pressure, and the pressure is very similar to weight. So large amounts of spacetime carry a lot of weight, and this weigh creates an implosion which is a black hole. Now, the first thing to happen in the universe is that the weight of spacetime collapses to create a whole labyrinth of black holes, because spacetime starts off as an infinite amount of hollow grains full of time. The inflation has nowhere to go, and pressure from inflation crunches the grain into holes. The crunch also bonds together to create atoms, and the atoms crunch together to create molecules. The relief of this pressure allows inflation to get going again. Time starts to flow out of quantum holes again. The flow from the holes is energy, and the particles start to flow out of the black hole, and you get a lot of Galaxies forming from these particles. Finally, I can answer your question. The photons are created when time pops out of a hole. You could call a photon the first stage of time visually. There is time still inside the holes, and time that is inside holes is negative mass. There is an old theory similar to this about the aether, and sinks, and squirts. Antimatter Karl Pearson proposed the existence of "squirts" (sources) and sinks of the flow of aether. The squirts represented normal matter and the sinks represented negative matter. Pearson's theory required a fourth dimension for the aether to flow from and into.[2] ... and I found the above example about 6 years after I figured it out, so I didn't copy it. The loss of the Aether in science seems to be detrimental to science. However, the aether, and spacetime should be combined, because both are half correct once you realise that Gravity is a push force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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