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#1 VictorMedvil

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 04:53 AM

This thread is about the eternal question how does one conquer the human species and this planet we call Earth? All nations and all peoples how do we conquer them peacefully or by force?

 

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#2 Flummoxed

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Posted 01 January 2020 - 07:06 AM

This thread is about the eternal question how does one conquer the human species and this planet we call Earth? All nations and all peoples how do we conquer them peacefully or by force?

 

 

Happy new year Victor :)

 

Firstly someone would have to be motivated, no one does anything for nothing, unless they are mad. What psychological issue would some one have to think they should rule the world.  

 

Perhaps a mad President in charge of one of the worlds biggest armed forces, might like to have a go, to help boost a failing economy perhaps(motivation). 

 

No one knows more than Donald Trump on any subject he claims. He appears a little unbalanced. He is in charge of a one of the worlds biggest armies. The American economy is bordering on recession. The dollar is expected to depreciate this year against other major currencies. A war might boost the economy :(

 

To have a one world government put in place peacefully would involve, devolved semi autonomous governments, catering to regional differences in culture and climate. Fair trade deals would have to be arranged. A little problem with this is fanatics, dont like to be told their religious practices are unacceptable. Politicians are greedy and like to line their own pockets or those of their friends and would be unlikely to implement fair trade arrangements with poorer regions of the world. 

 

The European Union was founded after WW2 to make countries effectively depend on each other for trade, helping to prevent further wars. A world trade agreement already exists. We already have a world bank who make new money to increase the worlds cash flow. ie they loan cash to countries they have just generated from the aether with interest to countries that have not got money.

 

Another tack (zeitgeist) might be to abolish all currencies, and to award people credits for work done, good deeds etc. Why should a worker in Mexico receive less than a worker doing the same Job in Canada. The goods they purchase cost more or less the same in each country. Having the same raw material costs globally there is no reason why drugs perhaps should cost 90% less outside of the USA, in every country I have been to. There is a bit of a rip off  going on in the USA, cant comment on Canada, not been there yet.



#3 VictorMedvil

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Posted 02 January 2020 - 03:58 AM

Cool well then it just seems as if we need some trade agreements made and that would be the key to controlling the world's money. If someone could get taxes from the trade agreements between all the countries that would be a insane amount of money to fund projects and Military improvements.


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Posted 02 January 2020 - 05:38 AM

Cool well then it just seems as if we need some trade agreements made and that would be the key to controlling the world's money. If someone could get taxes from the trade agreements between all the countries that would be a insane amount of money to fund projects and Military improvements.

 

There is more than one way to skin a cat. :)

 

Why use the military. Why should people need to know they had been conquered? Use a bit of stealth, infiltrate the old boys school networks, then get one of your own puppets elected. The KBI have had high level politicians in the past, in various countries. They are getting cleverer as I assume the CIA (apparently a contradiction in terms) are. If a Prime minister or President could be elected to do your bidding losing a countries influence in the world, it would allow another power to move in without resistance.

 

Or without political help the world media or secret services could be used to misinform, the general public so they all think they are living in a eutopia when in fact they are just wage slaves, and they might even elect an idiot such as Boris Johnson, Donald Trumps twin, mentally apparently. 

 

Alternatively they could be convinced that for instance Texas would be better of without the rest of the USA or the Ukraine would be better of without Russia, or India would be better off without ???STAN forgot the name. Maybe The Kurds would be better off without Turkey and Iraq etc. 

 

Different leaders of groups of people have historically rebelled against empires breaking them up, ultimately for their own financial gains.  

 

How would one get various super powers to work as a one world government whilst maintaining the illusion of individual states, and governing their own little patch of the planet. 

 

To control the worlds money supply would be a way of controlling countries without people really knowing a world government was already in place. G12 summits do what?  We may have been conquered already :(

 

Could world financiers be used to destabilize, political situations globally. If they were to contribute to election campaigns in countries they are not eligible to vote. Or make huge financial contributions to Russia or another super power could they be viewed as destabilizing political situations in countries not part of Russia perhaps.

 

Edit For amusement, assuming a Communist spy left Hungary during the communist regime, and went to university in England along with many other double agents at the time. Then got into banking, finance and hedge funds, became one of the wealthiest people in the world. Would destabilising Britains currency preventing them joining the euro. Then funding a campaign to initiate the break up of europe via Britain parting from Europe, with no trade deals, be regarded as enemy action if the CIA or KGB was behind it. How does an international financier from the communist block get away with it https://en.wikipedia...ki/George_Soros  Donald Trump likes to chat with President Putin, does he also chat with George Soros and other ex KGB :)


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 11:29 AM

Another possibility is to enact the New World Order, just putting it out there if anyone knows what that means...... Hostile Takeover!

We don't have to pussy foot around this there may be no peaceful solution, the best solution maybe to shoot and ask questions later, a dead man does not speak nor plot against you.

 

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#6 Flummoxed

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Posted 09 January 2020 - 05:23 AM

Another possibility is to enact the New World Order, just putting it out there if anyone knows what that means...... Hostile Takeover!

We don't have to pussy foot around this there may be no peaceful solution, the best solution maybe to shoot and ask questions later, a dead man does not speak nor plot against you.

 

 

 

 

Whats wrong with a bit of variety, cultural and economic diversity. A new world order could take an Anarchist philosophy, no government or world order, the average human does not like being told what to do. https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Anarchism . It seems to me that many of the worlds problems are caused by Patriotism, ie the perception of belonging to a country that has certain values. Whereas when we speak to people from other cultures we find people are the same all over the world. 

 

Muslims are nice people and very reasonable unless you mention you would like to eat pork to a chef in a Halal restaurant, in which case they can become a little unstable :)

 

Why do you think a world government or dictator would be a good thing????? EDIT World Conquest is not a new thing, Alexander the great conquered all of Persia https://en.wikipedia...ander_the_Great long before America was born

 

Amidst all the smoke and mirrors of world politics and world banking we may already have a Quasi world government. Maintaining an economy on money, allows the world bank to control a countries economy, therefore the worlds bankers are in charge. 


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Posted 09 January 2020 - 11:11 AM

Whats wrong with a bit of variety, cultural and economic diversity. A new world order could take an Anarchist philosophy, no government or world order, the average human does not like being told what to do. https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Anarchism . It seems to me that many of the worlds problems are caused by Patriotism, ie the perception of belonging to a country that has certain values. Whereas when we speak to people from other cultures we find people are the same all over the world. 

 

Muslims are nice people and very reasonable unless you mention you would like to eat pork to a chef in a Halal restaurant, in which case they can become a little unstable :)

 

Why do you think a world government or dictator would be a good thing????? EDIT World Conquest is not a new thing, Alexander the great conquered all of Persia https://en.wikipedia...ander_the_Great long before America was born

 

Amidst all the smoke and mirrors of world politics and world banking we may already have a Quasi world government. Maintaining an economy on money, allows the world bank to control a countries economy, therefore the worlds bankers are in charge. 

 

The idea of a global dictator is a sound one it allows for one person to make the "Big Decisions" that others cannot, it would bring peace and stability to the planet which is much needed as it would cause one "Archon" to control the decision making process of the world tackling problems that single nations cannot and enact Laws along with policies shaping the world. The U.N. which is a sort of global government has no "real power" to influence people with this council of single nations approach often times the nations disagree about certain issues which the U.N. doesn't have the authority to resolve, with a global dictator controlling the planet these issues could be resolved by his authority. With the presence of a global dictator wars would cease to exist as there is one leader, one Earth government controlling the smaller "Nations" of earth the resources from the taxes collected by this Global Government could be used to complete the goals best suited for all nations of earth generally giving a positive effect toward all of Mankind, however it would require a Dictator with control over everything to complete as disagreement would be resolved by this leader directly, which would be the final authority in all matters. The Earth at this time is fragmented into sections all with their own leaders if there was only one leader, this global dictator, then there would be unity of the planet with one authority, not many small voices but one big voice allowing for change on a global scale rather than on a national scale. It would effectively end war on this planet along with generally be a stabilizing factor for everyone to know that there was a leader to moderate the lesser leaders with global authority.

 

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#8 Flummoxed

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Posted 09 January 2020 - 01:25 PM

The idea of a global dictator is a sound one it allows for one person to make the "Big Decisions" that others cannot, it would bring peace and stability to the planet which is much needed as it would cause one "Archon" to control the decision making process of the world tackling problems that single nations cannot and enact Laws along with policies shaping the world. The U.N. which is a sort of global government has no "real power" to influence people with this council of single nations approach often times the nations disagree about certain issues which the U.N. doesn't have the authority to resolve, with a global dictator controlling the planet these issues could be resolved by his authority. With the presence of a global dictator wars would cease to exist as there is one leader, one Earth government controlling the smaller "Nations" of earth the resources from the taxes collected by this Global Government could be used to complete the goals best suited for all nations of earth generally giving a positive effect toward all of Mankind, however it would require a Dictator with control over everything to complete as disagreement would be resolved by this leader directly, which would be the final authority in all matters. The Earth at this time is fragmented into sections all with their own leaders if there was only one leader, this global dictator, then there would be unity of the planet with one authority, not many small voices but one big voice allowing for change on a global scale rather than on a national scale. It would effectively end war on this planet along with generally be a stabilizing factor for everyone to know that there was a leader to moderated the lesser leaders with global authority.

 

 

 

You are hoping you have a benevolent dictator with humanities happiness in mind. Not some psycho with twisted religious belief based on life N thousand years ago.

 

Empires have a history of failure. The Roman emperors found it to be a very dangerous job indeed. New emperors were either elected or bribed their way to power when the previous emperor was assassinated, often by their own body guards.

 

The Sheer size of a global empire would make it very difficult to govern. Power and decision making would need to be devolved to regions. However Political corruption and greed, including incompetent leaders cause people to lose faith in the leaders and empires then wane.

 

Roman emperors used to be almost worshiped as a god, until 322AD when the Roman empire was failing due to religious turmoil and civil wars. Emperor Constantine decided to create Christianity which incorporated many of the religious beliefs extant at the time. Council of Nacaea 

https://www.history....s-why-rome-fell

5. Government corruption and political instability

If Rome’s sheer size made it difficult to govern, ineffective and inconsistent leadership only served to magnify the problem. Being the Roman emperor had always been a particularly dangerous job, but during the tumultuous second and third centuries it nearly became a death sentence. Civil war thrust the empire into chaos, and more than 20 men took the throne in the span of only 75 years, usually after the murder of their predecessor. The Praetorian Guard—the emperor’s personal bodyguards—assassinated and installed new sovereigns at will, and once even auctioned the spot off to the highest bidder. The political rot also extended to the Roman Senate, which failed to temper the excesses of the emperors due to its own widespread corruption and incompetence. As the situation worsened, civic pride waned and many Roman citizens lost trust in their leadership."

Societies collapse for many reasons https://en.wikipedia...cietal_collapse. Empires have never last. 

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Is this what the freemasons/political elite are up to, creating a world order. Who would be the Global dictator, the King of Jerusalem perhaps :)



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Posted 09 January 2020 - 04:21 PM

Why must it be "conquer"?  What if each has something to offer, can see the possibilities and be willing to share?  Have you read Wendell Willkie's "One World". He had an idea but it scared the power-that-be" because one element was missing - the willingness to be "equal" rather than king of the mountain.  Is humanity ready for One World?



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Posted 11 January 2020 - 04:28 AM

Why must it be "conquer"?  What if each has something to offer, can see the possibilities and be willing to share?  Have you read Wendell Willkie's "One World". He had an idea but it scared the power-that-be" because one element was missing - the willingness to be "equal" rather than king of the mountain.  Is humanity ready for One World?

 

Exactly, but how could someone take over the world, Victor is perhaps keen on genocide :( . It might be easier and less messy to take over the worlds money supply or introduce an alternative that undermines the worlds economy, based on fair trade between individuals.

 

To make people equal are you thinking Communism. Communism has not really worked except perhaps in China.

 

 

A distant memory from school in George Orwells Animal Farm not all animals are created equal. 



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Posted 11 January 2020 - 05:00 AM

Exactly, but how could someone take over the world, Victor is perhaps keen on genocide :( . It might be easier and less messy to take over the worlds money supply or introduce an alternative that undermines the worlds economy, based on fair trade between individuals.

 

To make people equal are you thinking Communism. Communism has not really worked except perhaps in China.

 

 

A distant memory from school in George Orwells Animal Farm not all animals are created equal. 

No, I am not thinking communism.  This is exactly what went wrong with Wendell Willkie's idea.  He never once suggested communism but people took it that way.  Every country could still have it's own government and its own culture and other methods but all should work in common on world problems.  The same with world trade.  No country would be trying to bankrupt another country with high tariffs and such.  Each country would stay independent but all shared  equally.  No more fussing nd fighting to prove who is most powerful.  And yes, it is a pipe dream.  It's a pipe dream because we all seem to have an inborn urge to be in control. 

 

Sorry.  I only asked "why".  Why, Victor, would we have to take over the world?  But, of course, we "have to".  It was ever thus.  And we are witnessing it again right now.  Some day ........

 

Off the soap box.



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Posted 12 January 2020 - 04:54 AM

Another possibility is to enact the New World Order, just putting it out there if anyone knows what that means...... Hostile Takeover!

We don't have to pussy foot around this there may be no peaceful solution, the best solution maybe to shoot and ask questions later, a dead man does not speak nor plot against you.

 

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Mulling it over for a while, and taking into account the masonic all seeing eye, why have a obvious world leader/dictator to be regularly assassinated (History repeats itself and emperors/dictators get killed). Empires rise and fall why not work in the background as king makers, via a global secret society, governing various semi autonomous regions. Looking at the history of the world with tongue in cheek, the masons have been around for thousands of years, originating from Egypt, or even earlier. To become a mason you must have a belief in a god of sorts. Their motive would be perhaps an inherent belief that everyone else on the planet should have perhaps a belief in one god of some sorts, for an Egyptian or early Jew this might have been a Pharoah or maybe something else. The Jews left Egypt and apparently took 40 years to find the promised land formerly known as Palestine.  

 

Using smoke and mirrors, provoking little wars via proxy's, you could effectively control the world. Leaderships you dont approve of or are over stepping their remit, could be removed by destabilizing their little empires. Now we have a worldwide media, disinformation, half truths or lies can be transmitted instantly. People dont appear to study History, or understand the implications of what their politicians do. History is normally written through the eyes of the Victors those bits that are shocking are suppressed. Genocide cost innocent lives.

 

The bombing of Japans cities in the second world war, could be regarded as war crimes today, the footage is still suppressed. The cities were largely undefended 

towards the end of the war and millions of undefended civilians died. 700 000 in one city alone in a fire storm induced by Napalm bombing. Heroshima and Nagasaki go without saying. 

 

Why did I bring up Japan Ah yes!

The reasons that Japan went to war on America was because of a trade blockade. ie trade blockades can provoke war. Is Iran going to use proxys to attack america, or is it going to be foolish enough to declare all out war. Iran has allies with Russia and China who may help(the world would be even more dangerous).

 

An alternative view might be that Putin who has daily phone calls with trump told Trump to attack Iranian diplomats on Iraqi soil, so that the Iraqis would demand the Americans leave. If that was the plan it seems like the plan is working, Iraqis now want the Americans to leave.  

 

Normally countries go to war when their borders or allies are threatened. Who are Americas allies in the middle east, who might feel threatened by a nuclear powered Iran. Could the Israelis be controlling American politics and destabilising the middle east. 



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Posted 13 January 2020 - 12:11 AM

The real pretenders to the World domination are all anti-democratic: international corporations, World Caliphate, Putin, OPEC, UN officials etc. The globalist idyll leads to physical destruction of nations, obliteration of culture, of morality and of family values. In another words, catastrophe.