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#18 VictorMedvil

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 09:50 PM

Well, basically as Energy-mass falls into the Blackhole part of the Energy-mass gets ejected due to the spin because as dubbel said the speed of the spin is only slightly less than the speed of light thus the spin force throws it out due to pressure of the Energy-Mass plus the spin of the Blackhole, it is like swirl around a cup of water then when the water spills out the top. The spin causes the water level on the sides of the cup to rise and pressure to be put on the sides of the cup.


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Posted 22 March 2019 - 02:34 AM

Thanks for the review.  I was wanting a farther back source but the review fits in.  From Big Bang via gravity to black hole.  Does that make sense? 

More or less, yes.

 

By the way, thinking about this some more, I should add there are other ways for gravitational potential energy to be converted into electromagnetic radiation more directly, near the edge of a black hole.

 

There is something called "synchrotron radiation", in which charged particles drawn in by gravity encounter a magnetic field from the black hole and are thereby caused to move in a circular trajectory. This causes them to emit EM radiation. This mechanism is in fact proposed for "jets" of EM radiation seen in astronomy. More here: https://en.wikipedia..._in_astronomy  


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Posted 22 March 2019 - 08:29 AM

Thanks to all of you.  I have gotten behind this morning but just read this entire thread.  I think I understand now.  There was an interesting item at Science Daily this morning that I want to post when I get an instant.  Reading this thread reminded me of it.  Later.



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Posted 22 March 2019 - 11:17 AM

POLLY! :)



#22 Dubbelosix

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 11:45 AM

And those "short bursts from the poles" are what the article is about.  Yes?

 

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Posted 22 March 2019 - 11:47 AM

More or less, yes.

 

By the way, thinking about this some more, I should add there are other ways for gravitational potential energy to be converted into electromagnetic radiation more directly, near the edge of a black hole.

 

There is something called "synchrotron radiation", in which charged particles drawn in by gravity encounter a magnetic field from the black hole and are thereby caused to move in a circular trajectory. This causes them to emit EM radiation. This mechanism is in fact proposed for "jets" of EM radiation seen in astronomy. More here: https://en.wikipedia..._in_astronomy 

 

This radiation comes from the accelerated charges in the accretion disk and will of course supply a lot of energy coming from a black hole contributing to the luminosity of the quasar.



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Posted 22 March 2019 - 12:36 PM

yes.

Thanks.