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#1 tarak

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 03:09 PM

On a general note heaven is where god stays and hell is where evil stays.Do all religions have the concept of heaven and hell?If so where exactly are they?Many believe that thier good deeds take them to heaven,which shows the insatiable desire of human to go on living even after death.Positive thinking.One more thing,If each religion has a separate heaven and hell,then where are these ultimate destinations situated.
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Posted 30 May 2005 - 05:24 PM

On a general note heaven is where god stays and hell is where evil stays.Do all religions have the concept of heaven and hell?If so where exactly are they?Many believe that thier good deeds take them to heaven,which shows the insatiable desire of human to go on living even after death.Positive thinking.One more thing,If each religion has a separate heaven and hell,then where are these ultimate destinations situated.
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Maybe Hell is a black hole, time stops in the bottomless pit and the pressure and heat last forever. The queston I would ask is; how did this concept come into being thousands of years ago when today it can be explained realistically in scientific terms?

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 08:21 PM

On a general note heaven is where god stays and hell is where evil stays.Do all religions have the concept of heaven and hell?If so where exactly are they?Many believe that thier good deeds take them to heaven,which shows the insatiable desire of human to go on living even after death.Positive thinking.One more thing,If each religion has a separate heaven and hell,then where are these ultimate destinations situated.
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The pearly gates heaven, fire and brimstone hell are Christian fantasies. No other religion I'm aware of has anything similar. The notion of afterlife for a disembodied soul is also mostly Christian.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 01:37 AM

Well, I'm a Hindu, and Hinduism has a concept of heaven and hell, but it is pretty similar to the Christian concept (but older).

I think though, that there is nothing like heaven and hell. When you die, you just... die. There is no afterlife (this concet too has a place in Hinduism , by the way). Heaven and Hell were created by ancient philosophers to make people behave nicely, because they would fear going to hell.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 12:42 PM

everything is comprised of 'form(Rupa)' and 'mind or consciousness(Nama)'. for example, Any psychological orgamism like human being is made of both, Heaven is made of mind, Hell is also made of mind. we, as a buddhist, believe life is the co-existence of mind and matter. Death is the seperation of mind and matter. Rebirth is recombination of mind and matter. After the passing away of the physical body (matter), the mental forces (mind) recombine and assume a new combination in a different material form and condition another existence. the mind part of th compound is what experiences an object and the matter part does not experience of anything. Heaven and Hell is the place for mind after death while matter is decayed. so, both places are temperary places during to alleviate the mind. we see both as an inpermanent place as in combination although they are sensically different. finally, they are only 'one-stop sevice' along our journey to Nirvana.

(this post is not a advertisment for buddhism. :xx: )

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 06:53 AM

as far as i can determin all religons belive in a good and evil effect after death weather or not it is called heaven or hell is a diffrent question

i belive that earth is hell and that heavan is a unataniabal but that is just me

one of my freinds belive that if god exist then the devil exits and they need a place for them selfs to live and we are them places the none belivers of any religon are the holders of the devil wich is reliesed upon there deaths and the same as belivers but then he is highly religous so i don't know

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 09:17 AM

On a general note heaven is where god stays and hell is where evil stays.Do all religions have the concept of heaven and hell?If so where exactly are they?Many believe that thier good deeds take them to heaven,which shows the insatiable desire of human to go on living even after death.Positive thinking.One more thing,If each religion has a separate heaven and hell,then where are these ultimate destinations situated.
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they are situated in people's minds because they're both fake.

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 10:03 AM

they are situated in people's minds because they're both fake.


While I believe these notions exist as such in the minds of the faithful, in physical reality, we are machines - just ripples of energy emanating from the big bang.

There's a poem in there somewhere.

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:36 AM

The pearly gates heaven, fire and brimstone hell are Christian fantasies. No other religion I'm aware of has anything similar. The notion of afterlife for a disembodied soul is also mostly Christian.

Many religions have a concept of Heaven & Hell. Where have you been since 9-11-01 (and before)? Have you not heard that the Muslim extremists believe that when they blow themselves up and murder Jews, Americans and other infidels that they will go to Heaven and be greeted by 72 virgins? One homicide bomber recruiter said he tells the potential killer, "If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins, 70 wives and everlasting happiness." -article

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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:45 AM

On a general note heaven is where god stays and hell is where evil stays.Do all religions have the concept of heaven and hell?

No, all religions do not have a concept of Heaven and Hell. One example is Jehovah's Witnesses or The Watchtower Society. They belive in Heaven for 144 people and life on the New Earth for other lesser believers. But, if you are not a member of their society, when you die your total being is destroyed. To them it is illogical for God to waste His time creating a place to punish souls for eternity.

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 04:52 PM

What about out-of-body experiences? When patients die on the operating table, they say (sometimes) they can see themselves go out of there bodies, and then they usually see a dark tunnel with a light at the end, or they're in a green pasture, or they're in a place like hell. Then they hear a voice (loved one, close relative, even God) telling them to go back. When they initially leave there bodies , they can remember what the doctors were saying, and what means were used to recucitate them. But in these cases, The blood supply to their brain was cut off, so it was shut down along with all their sences. If they could still remember those things, from a time in which they were incapable of storing knowledge, dosn't that prove something must have happened out of the physical body, and give evidence to some kind of afterlife?

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Posted 08 July 2005 - 06:30 PM

FYI. The Jewish word "Sheol" is usually translated as hell, but simply means grave. The hell people think about most is judgement day, "gehenna," which is reference to the "Valley of Ben-Hinnom" out side the city of ancient Jerusalem where the Israelites threw trash and dead people who couldn't afford burrial. This valley was continually burning so as not to overflow.

While this fire went on and on and on, the things thrown in it were eventually burned up, and when the flow of fuel ceased the fire eventually went out. Sodom and Gomorrah were like wise said to be an example of God's eternal punishment, but are these two cities still burning today? Are its inhabitants still writhing in agony?. Compare with Malachi chapter 4

" 'For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,'
Says the LORD of hosts,
'That will leave them neither root nor branch.

But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.

You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,'
Says the LORD of hosts."
— Malachi 4:1-3 nkjv


If the Jewish hell was a temporary but unreversible destruction of the condemned, Christianity should also hold this view, but seems to have been permanently skewed by incorporation of paganism during the time of Constantine.

  • The dead aren't in hell or heaven, yet. They are "asleep" until the second coming. (Ecclesiastes 9:10; John 11:11-14; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52)
  • "Heaven" is not going to be our permanent dwelling place. We are going to inherit a new earth, and new flesh. Hence the term, resurrection. (Psalm 37:11; Luke 24:36-39; 2 Peter 3:13)
  • The dead will not be immortal, because our souls are not immortal, just as our flesh is not immortal. (Matthew 10:28) Therefore, "hell" will not last forever. The "effects" of hell will last forever... hence the term, "everlasting destruction," not "everlasting destructing." (Malachi 4:1-3; 2 Thessalonians 1:9)
  • "Hell" will happen on judgement day, after our millennial reign with Christ in heaven, around the new Jerusalem, on the new earth. (Revelation 20:7-10)
Constantine merged his government with the Christian church and the Greek pagans, causing this rampant blend of theologies (Christianity, Paganism, and Emperor deism) hence the term Roman Catholic Church. And they still openly hold themselves above the scriptures.

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 09:32 PM

:eek: I know this is going to sound really strange but hell is located in 'heaven'.

According to the Bible there are actually 'two' parts to heaven - paradise and hell (Hades) are in the same realm - though separated by a chasm of some kind so that one cannot interact with the other.

Hell is a place where rebellious 'spirits' reside - they had to have somewhere to live because they no longer wanted to reside in paradise so God created another place for them.

'Heaven' is a realm of the supernatural so both hell and paradise are supernatural places where immortal spirits reside. However, God is in both places.

The thing which bothers the spirits that are in hell is that 'God is there' and that causes them torment in the supernatural 'purifying' fire of his presence.


Exactly what verses of scripture give you these ideas... particular that God is in the bad place tormenting them or that the fire is somehow 'purifying'?

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 09:34 PM

Many religions have a concept of Heaven & Hell. Where have you been since 9-11-01 (and before)? Have you not heard that the Muslim extremists believe that when they blow themselves up and murder Jews, Americans and other infidels that they will go to Heaven and be greeted by 72 virgins? One homicide bomber recruiter said he tells the potential killer, "If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins, 70 wives and everlasting happiness." -article


So if Christians have sex it's a sin and could cost them their place in Heaven, but Muslims go to heaven to have sex with 70 women for eternity?