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#1 forests

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:47 AM

Hello,

I want to discuss in this thread a new type of biology which says that beliefs/consciousness control DNA/Genes instead of genes controlling the organism. The main scientist behind this appears to be Dr. Bruce Lipton author of The Biology of Belief:

According to his book:

This book is a groundbreaking work in the field of new biology, and it will forever change how you think about thinking. Through the research of Dr. Lipton and other leading-edge scientists, stunning new discoveries have been made about the interaction between your mind and body and the processes by which cells receive information. It shows that genes and DNA do not control our biology, that instead DNA is controlled by signals from outside the cell, including the energetic messages emanating from our thoughts. Using simple language, illustrations, humor, and everyday examples, he demonstrates how the new science of Epigenetics is revolutionizing our understanding of the link between mind and matter and the profound effects it has on our personal lives and the collective life of our species.


http://www.barbarast...gyisbelief.html

Lipton describes this new science, called epigenetics, in his book, The Biology of Belief: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles (2005: Mountain of Love/Elite Books). Full of citations and references from other scientists conducting leading-edge research in this field, this book could literally change your life at its most fundamental level.

Until the discovery of epigenetics, it was believed that a cell’s nucleus, which contains the DNA, was the “brain” of the cell, quite necessary for its functioning. In fact, as Lipton and others discovered, cells can live and function quite well even after their nuclei are removed. The real “brain” of the cell is its membrane, which reacts and responds to outside influences, dynamically adjusting to an ever-changing environment. What does this mean for we collections of cells called humans? As we encounter various environmental influences, we tell our genes what to do, usually unconsciously. Do carbs make us fat? If we believe they do. Will we be loved, succeed on the job, be prosperous? If we believe we will.

On Cellular Consciousness
http://www.tonyb.fre...w.com/id68.html

Interview With Bruce Lipton:

http://www.brucelipt...-quantum-field/

MAB: The premise of your book “The Biology of Belief” is that humans are not, as was previously believed, victims of our genes, but that the environment has a direct effect on our DNA. Would you elaborate?

BL: Sure. Until recently, it was thought that genes were self-actualizing, meaning genes could turn themselves on and off. As a result, most people today believe they are genetic automatons, and that their genes control their lives.

But my research introduces a radical new understanding of cell science. The new biology reveals that we ‘control’ our genome rather than being controlled by it. It is now recognized that the environment, and more specifically, our perception or interpretation of the environment directly controls the activity of our genes. This explains why people can have spontaneous remissions or recover from injuries deemed to be permanent disabilities.

MAB: Then it really is about “mind over matter”?

BL: Yes, this new perspective of human biology does not view the body as just a mechanical device, but rather incorporates the role of a mind and spirit. This breakthrough is fundamental in all healing because it recognizes that when we change our perception or beliefs we send totally different messages to our cells, causing a reprogramming of their _expression.

This new science is called epigenetics. It’s been around for about 16 years, but it’s just now being introduced to the general public. For example, The American Cancer Society is an organization that has been looking for cancer genes for the last 50 years or so. But they’ve found that only about 5 percent of cancer has genetic linkage, leaving 95% that is not genetically linked. Recently the American Cancer Society released a statistic that said 60 percent of cancer is avoidable by changing lifestyle and diet. So now they are telling us, “It’s the way you live, it’s not your genes.”



http://www.brucelipt...-consciousness/

The notion that the nucleus and its genes are the “brain” of the cell is an untenable and illogical hypothesis. If the brain is removed from an animal, disruption of physiologic integration would immediately lead to the organism’s death. If the nucleus truly represented the brain of the cell, then removal of the nucleus would result in the cessation of cell functions and immediate cell death. However, experimentally enucleated cells may survive for two or more months with out genes, and yet are capable of effecting complex responses to environmental and cytoplasmic stimuli (Lipton, et al., Differentiation 1991, 46:117-133). Logic reveals that the nucleus can not be the brain of the cell!


Any opinions about any of this? Please do share your thoughts!

#2 katsisco

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:25 AM

Well, this past Sunday the 22 of July, the Chicago Trib magazine had an article about accupuncture, rikki, etc. And medical science readily admits now that stress is a killer. So it appears the long life we all seek is exactly what our myths tells. Have a secure home, plenty of food and water without having to work for it, slaves that are non violent and adorative which science also tells us is good for our health, and Viola!!! long life.

Nothing is new under the sun.

#3 sman

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:45 PM

Science of Mind looks like a fun mag to read. It’s not, however - as I was hoping - a journal of scholarly publications from the fields of neurology, psychology, psycholinguistics, artificial intelligence and the cognitive sciences. Instead it seems to publish any kind of feel-good pseudo-science. Awareness Magazine is the same genre. Thanks for the links though.
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#4 maddog

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:43 PM

I can not speak to the magazines or sources of the articles mentioned. I have however speculated on the notion that thinking can affect your DNA
(in particular base pair selection during being copied). I am speaking about transcription errors. How many are random flaws and how many
by design. It just gives one to ponder...

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:45 PM

I want to discuss in this thread a new type of biology which says that beliefs/consciousness control DNA/Genes instead of genes controlling the organism. The main scientist behind this appears to be Dr. Bruce Lipton author of The Biology of Belief:

Interesting topic. It does seem likely that pure thinking could alter hormone levels (say in response to thinking about a stressful event) and that the hormones could then trigger a epigenetic response that would result in methylation of a DNA segment, thus changing how a DNA gene is transcribed. Research on the human #20 and #22 chromosomes does show that as much as ~ 20% of the total genome on these two chromosomes is influenced by DNA methylation (which is the epigenetic addition of a methyl group to one of the four basic nucleotides that form DNA).

But, this is not a new type of biology, it is the old biology being updated as new information about the epigenetic regulation of the DNA molecule transcription process becomes available. For Dr. Lipton to suggest that "beliefs/consciousness control DNA/Genes instead of genes controlling the organism" is pure nonsense, it is not an either-or topic of discussion for those that conduct research on epigenetics.

Edited by Rade, 07 August 2012 - 08:26 AM.

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#6 belovelife

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:42 PM

interesting
i practice reiki

and as such, when i focus my meditation ( self healing mainly )

i "tell" my body to go back to the plan, and i visualize the dna strand and process of replication

#7 Pincho Paxton

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

Control DNA with thoughts. It's how you would write the headline of a newspaper. You store information, and retrieve information, you have little control over the process, you don't have a conscious, physical connection to that process. And that is why you can't control that process. You would have to be aware of internal physics inside your brain. But the physics are like a twitch, and if you get a twitch you just can't control it.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 04:57 PM

Hello,

I want to discuss in this thread a new type of biology which says that beliefs/consciousness control DNA/Genes instead of genes controlling the organism. The main scientist behind this appears to be Dr. Bruce Lipton author of The Biology of Belief:

According to his book:



http://www.barbarast...gyisbelief.html


On Cellular Consciousness
http://www.tonyb.fre...w.com/id68.html

Interview With Bruce Lipton:

http://www.brucelipt...-quantum-field/




http://www.brucelipt...-consciousness/



Any opinions about any of this? Please do share your thoughts!



This is nonsense, the man teaches at a college of chiropractic, he would appear to have no support for this from anyone or anyplace but his own ideas...

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Bruce_Lipton

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:21 PM

This is nonsense, the man teaches at a college of chiropractic, he would appear to have no support for this from anyone or anyplace but his own ideas...

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Bruce_Lipton



Agreed.

It sounds just as absurd as Homeopathy.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:55 PM

Agreed.

It sounds just as absurd as Homeopathy.



The illusion of knowledge is often more compelling than real knowledge and easier to get others to believe for some reason...

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:02 AM

I agree. I believe the reason is because those who are fooled by an illusion of knowledge, are often incapable of discerning between real science and pseudoscience. Sometimes, the illusion of knowledge is more appealing because it seems to tantalizingly appeal to them because it somehow mystical or outside of what they may have heard with the least amount of knowledge on the subject. Things like ''vortex math'' for instance, a small gem I have recently watched on youtube makes me feel sorry for those who are often soaked in by such rubbish.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 01:04 PM

Do we control our DNA, or does it control our beliefs?

There is some SF online about the DNA in mitochondria being placed in 'mitochondrial Eve' by aliens and that the DNA is propogating memes through society and influencing our behaviour. It is just SF, but I've always wondered how much influence our DNA has on our thinking, seeing as we don't know the full function of our DNA yet.