Freethinker Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Most musical sources are analog. (digital sources are typically designed to try to replicate an analog source) The ultimate receptor system for music, our ears/ auditory system, is analog. If we listen to LIVE music, the majority of the time, digital never becomes part of the process. Thus the question of "Which is better, Digital or Analog?" is a INFORMATION STORAGE question. (Ya ya, I know all about DSP). As such, old school vinyl "records" represent the source/ destination paradigm much more accurately than any of the current digital storage systems. None of the widely available digital storage systems are able to compete sonically with analog vinyl. Beyond sonic accuracy and musicality, simple vinyl discs have significatly longer shelf life. Vinyl records in normal storage conditions, would last "forever". CD's and DVD's have inherant design flaws regarding life span. As they are constructed of metalic substrates sandwiched between polycarbonate. These different materials have different coefficients of expansion. Thus thru normal storage conditions, which would include varying temperatures, seperation of the substrate is an inherant process. In fact seperation of the earliest CD's are becoming a recognized problem. While even the oldest vinyls (even laquers) are fully functional. And for those that are fortunate enough to have a truly well outfitted audio system, there is no comparison between the musicallity of vinyl compared to any of the digital sources. Vinyl sonically destroys digital sources. What will it take for digital technology to be able to compete sonically with good ole fashion records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 wow how old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted April 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Old enough to know better! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 speaking of sound did you people hear about the new toy that the military has. breaks up crowds using sound waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted April 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Called a boom box or bomb box? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 i don't know, its a big dish that sends out soundwaves that hurt your ears so the crowd leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted April 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 That tactic is an old one. In Vietnam, helicopters had speakers playing rock music to intimidate and demoralize the enemy. Drummers were often the first in battle. Football fans try to drown out the opponent's q-back's calls... I get rid of old people at parties by playing rock! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted April 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Besides, "Threshold of pain" (120db SPL) and accurate musical reproduction are two very different things. OK, not with my system :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 the thing the military uses can't be heard but felt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted April 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Ah yes, extremely low frequency, high intensity sound causes nausea. It can make people "feel bad" and need to leave. They would not know they were being manipulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 those were some casues of it wish i knew the name, butwhen they demo it people held their ears and run. they are using it in iraq now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 those were some casues of it wish i knew the name, butwhen they demo it people held their ears and run. they are using it in iraq now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freethinker Posted April 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 The human anatomy is such that frequencies below about 100hz are picked up by the bioney structure in front and above the ears. Not the ears themselves. If you calc the res freq of the inner ear area, you will quickly understand why lows can't get in there. So these ultra low "sounds" can't be stopped by plugging the ear! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileyj Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 well don't what to tell you. call the pentagon and tell them they wasted their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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