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Australian PAPER - preprint Manuscript available for review. In 2001 Queensland researcher Ronald Pegg asserted that: 1) the Egyptian glyph called the ‘sun-disc’, and numbered N5 by Sir Alan Gardiner, was a representation of a compact disk and not of the Sun; 2) hidden beneath the traditional interpretation and religioustranslation of Egyptian glyphs were accounts of computer technology. In response, here an examination of one hundred and twenty eight glyphs from the entire first three columns of the Papyrus of Ani was undertaken. The objectives were to: find the description of each glyph in Gardiner’s Grammar Book and write its meaning; then determine whether those descriptions and meanings relate to pieces of known computer technology. To generate a positive result an exact match of described ancient attributes to any such actual technology was required. Mid 1990s computer technology was identified. Link to PAPER: http://www.timetravelevidence.com.au/preprint/2015/read-paper4.php

Questions with Answers generated elsewhere by this study True. That is sometimes the case. But when the same reference books as used by most ‘experts’ are employed, and the glyphs checked, and substituted glyphs have obviously been used and thus given an incorrect translation and context, then I prefer to go by what the originally depicted glyphs represented and said, and not just accept what some ‘expert’ chose it to mean after he/she had guessed as to what the scribe Ani was trying to describe. I may have answered this better elsewhere - when this question was asked… That’s what I thought at first too, until I checked out the meanings of the glyphs for myself - using reference books by other Egyptian experts such as Gardiner A, Egyptian Grammar, Third Edition reprinted 1978, Griffith Institute, Oxford; and Collier M. & Manley B. 1998, How to read Egyptian Hieroglyphs, British Museum Press, London. Important points from the full article… Comparing the line drawings (used by ‘experts’ to make the translation) with the original glyphs (drawn by Ani), it is immediately obvious that some have not been reproduced correctly. For example The first red circle: The drawn shaded circle symbol is different. The original is not dark and has a hole in the middle (similar to the other three). The ledge was originally squarish. The circle in the cradle is totally different. A 'house plan' has replaced the rectangle box. A 'loaf' has replaced the horizontal line. Ronald Pegg's claim is therefore warranted, as the given and accepted translation is based upon substituted glyphs. This means that the intended original meaning and context is not yet known. The original glyphs as drawn by Ani have therefore not yet been interpreted nor translated correctly. The article goes on to the last six glyphs… Of these 6 glyphs, 4 have been misrepresented in their reproduction and therefore also in their subsequent translation. This means the contemporary translation is incorrect. Well yes. That’s right. If the wrong glyphs have been used to translate, then the given interpretation by ‘experts’ is NOT what Ani depicted, as the ‘experts’ substituted glyphs BEFORE they did their translation. A picture is given and when compared to what Ani depicted, it is obvious that different glyphs have been used in the translation by the ‘experts’. Continuing, the article presents a visual comparison of the last 4 (of 6) glyphs to those as shown in the Sign Listings in Sir Alan Gardiner’s Egyptian reference book… One glyph is not a known glyph. Scholars have not referenced it. Another glyph has been substituted in the place of the second glyph. This glyph depicted by Ani is also not known. Scholars have not referenced it. The third glyph has been substituted for another, yet the original glyph drawn by Ani IS referenced by Gardiner. Hence, at least three glyphs have not yet been interpreted nor translated correctly. So, turning to glyphs that look similar in Gardiner’s book, their meanings* (ie. etymologies) are extracted and put down in order. This, glyph by glyph identification, gives a running sentence - being what the glyphs are representing. The 6 glyphs depicted by Ani say “A Disk. Its protruding ledge, a disk shaped saddle, in the side of the supportive base”. So, no, I do not just simply agree with Pegg’s translation. I grabbed my own copies of the books as cited in the full article and very carefully checked each glyph for myself. Unfortunately I did not state this in my earlier 2006 report regarding Pegg’s claims. * This is just like using the Hebrew Lexicon from Strong’s Concordance to verify the original Hebrew meanings from the Old Testament. Just because something is not your chosen sphere of expertise, one should always ask questions - and actively seek the correct answers. Regarding “The accuracy of the first must depend greatly on the expertise and care of the translator” That is one of the main the points presented in the cited article. It is clearly shown and easily observed by anyone (ie. non-experts) that the (‘expert’) translator (or his associated artist) has substituted glyphs - for what he thought Ani was trying to depict. The original glyphs have NOT been reproduced accurately. Hence translating the wrong glyphs will not give a translation of what Ani was originally saying. Thus the original message portrayed by Ani was still not known at that time. The second point you state of ‘seeing what you want to see’ is exactly of what the translator (or his artist) is guilty. This is what Pegg and myself are pointing out. Interpertation Also, if the sun-disc glyph was originally depicting a ‘DVD, record, laser-disk, wheel, etc” THEN the context of either a ‘DVD, record, laser-disk, wheel, etc’ would have to be observed in subsequent and associated glyphs on the papyrus. This is not the case. When these other options are put into a context, they do not produce complete results. eg. Yes, a DVD does sit in a similar shaped ‘cradle in the side of a box’ and it is operated via ‘a mouse & cable’ as depicted in associated glyphs, but the following and associated descriptions given by the glyphs do not describe any DVD’s contents. But when the context of a ‘compact disk’ interpretation is employed, the associated 91 glyphs from Plate I, columns 1 & 2 of the Papyrus of Ani do in fact describe the use of three modern cd-roms in a computer, using a mouse and cable: They briefly describe the contents and some imagery from the Ancients cd-rom, the 1991 Persian Gulf War - Desert Storm from the Grolier cd-rom, and the 'Sun and Stars' from the RedShift2 cd-rom. This was made known in the 2006 Egyptian Report So using the context of the sun-disc as a compact disk (ie. a cd-rom) the surrounding 91 glyphs produce a fully self contained explanation. BUT is just one papyrus showing evidence of modern computer technology all that is needed to prove Pegg’s case? No. Pegg, in his own works, shows additional proof. In the Pyramid texts, Utterances 267, 273, 478, 600, he reveals where they are describing images from the three cd-roms. Source: Pegg, R 2003, Ancient Chronicles Unsealed, PPHC, Adelaide. In my 2006 investigations, I reveal where the stories regarding the mythical Gods of Heliopolis and the Funeral Bed vignette from the Book of the Dead are describing a series of pictures from the Ancients cd-rom. Source: Pengelly, E 2006, A New Understanding - Egyptian Gods, PPHC, Adelaide. That is why the latest article was written with comprehensive citations and actual depictions of glyphs from Sign Lists from noted reference books. Also, there are printed books available in Australia that present and highlight my discoveries and findings, as well as certain web pages on the PPHC Study Group website. The physical size of the Papyrus is quite small. The papyrus of Ani was found at Thebes, and was purchased by the Trustees of the British Museum in 1888. It measures 78 feet long by only 1 foot 3 inches high. To put this into perspective, here are columns from Plate I (with 1 & 2 highlighted) against a 15 inch ruler. So within the 15 inches, 2.5 inches are lost due to the coloured borders. The red ‘sun-disc’ glyph is therefore about a quarter of an inch high - not much room to draw the hole so it is clearly visible. Some glyphs do show the hole in the middle, some do not. This one shows both… This one shows a circle with a hole in it These glyphs (and another) describe that the Grolier disk is partly green in colour. Source: PPHC Study Group website, Member Area, pages Glyph_1 & Glyph_2 When these were investigated and revealed descriptions from two modern cd-roms, it was deduced that in many cases, the sun-glyphs without a hole clearly seen were also representing a compact disk.

UPDATE 24th July 2010 Due to many comments and questions regarding the given example* of ‘Egyptian Hieroglyphs depict Computer Technology’, more information is now provided before you attempt the on-line DOOPArt evaluation. * An Explanation of the specific 6 glyphs and their Context is given. See ‘Explanation and Context of these Egyptian glyphs’ link via : DOOPArts...2 Videos introduce where Computer Technology is Documented in Ancient Texts...Conduct your own Evaluation...

UPDATE: June 2010 Five videos now introduce and show what type of computer technology and which cd-roms (ie. DOOPArts) has been documented and depicted by people in ancient times. Link: Computer Technology found Documented in Ancient Texts....Ancient Texts REVEAL their SECRETS...2 Videos Reveal Ancient Secrets After viewing them, you may wish to conduct the on-line Evaluation session as mentioned in the OP.

Some people seem to be not understanding or are missing the point of this evaluation session. HISTORY: 1. Ronald Pegg made an observation regarding an ancient text and modern cd-rom pictures. . 2. Ronald Pegg investigated 20 more ancient texts, and made associated observations regarding those ancient texts and pictures from a modern cd-rom. . 3. He proposed an hypothesis - “The documented accounts in certain ancient texts known as prophetic 'dreams' or 'visions' are about the contents and pictures from the 1995 Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean multi-media cd-rom”. . 4. He asserted a Conclusion based upon his observations and investigations - “This is Evidence of Time Travel”. . 5. He established a general Theory - “Certain noted Angels giving 'visions of the future' who were documented in the sacred texts of the Hebrew, Christian, Muslim, and Mormon faiths (and others) - were not of a divine origin...as they were actually human chrononauts taking back warning messages concerning false religions, details of certain historical and astronomical events, and a chronology regarding a future war. Those technological time travellers were misunderstood and perceived as 'Angels'”. . This session is NOT evaluating points 3 & 4 & 5. These may be discussed in later sessions. . This session IS evaluating the validity of Pegg’s original OBSERVATIONS (points 1 & 2) by asking “Do the descriptions in ancient texts match to the pictures seen on a modern cd-rom. . To do this I am asking you to assist with the evaluation process by testing, with a ‘verse by verse’ examination, ten texts that Pegg said contains proof. LINK to Evaluation Session

Some results so far Whether pictures match ancient descriptions as a percentage, where 0-30 is NO, >30-50 is probably not, >50-75 is MAYBE, >75-85 is probably, and >85 to 100 is YES. Results from 12 Evaluation Sessions nil: 0 - 30 2 : >30 - 50 4 : >50 - 75 4 : >75 - 85 2 : >85 - 100 -- 12 in total Average is 67.71 percent, which means it is more than a coincidence. For these figures to actually be relevant, we need another series of evaluations by at least a 100 people to provide a better overall summary of opinions. Can you help ? Can you spare the time to complete the Evaluation Session ? Evaluating 10 Ancient Texts that Pegg says describe Modern Technology

Who took back the original obsolete technology and why ? Based upon ten years of research, this is how I see it. >-- 1. For some reason, someone, with a set of cd-roms and a computer, went back to the ancient Middle East (ca. 3114BCE), and gave a show & tell. Reasoning/evidence - Akkadian, Mesopotamian, Babylonian, and Egyptian legends (and hieroglyphs) describe (and depict) contents of the cd-roms. 1.b. Result – ancient religions with multiple gods. 2. Someone, then went back again (ca. 1450BCE) to say to the locals “whoops, your religions are wrong because they are based upon the images from these cd-roms” (shown to the priests again). 2. b. Result - one god religions spawned. Egyptian Aten, Hebrew Faith. Reasoning/evidence - Papyrus of Ani shows, describes, and depicts a computer, compact disk, etc. Genesis chp 1 describes opening sequence of the Ancients cd-rom. 3. Someone (named Gabriel in Ezekiel’s case), then went back again (ca. 600BCE) to say to the locals “whoops, your religions are wrong because they are based upon the images from these cd-roms” (shown to the priests again). But this time the angel specifically spoke to Daniel (for example) about the 1991 PGW, and when all these ‘mistakes’ will be corrected. Reasoning/evidence - Ezekiel, Daniel, Lehi texts describe the contents of the cd-rom, and Daniel various segemnts of ‘future history’. 3. b. Result - while augmenting the Hebrew Faith with a new set of texts called prophetic texts, this actually did not ‘birth’ any new religions. 4. Someone, then went back again (ca. 30CE) and told the Roman person Paul “whoops, the Hebrew religion is wrong because it is based upon the images from these cd-roms” (shown to Paul). Reasoning/evidence - Paul describes seeing the cd-rom maker’s logo. 4.b. Result - He told his story to others, and their combined stories became the basis for the ‘Jesus Stories’. (The later Roman Christian Religion three centuries later made this into the ‘son of God’ religion that we know about today). 5. Someone, then went back again (ca. 95CE) and told John on Patmos Island Paul “whoops, Paul and the other have got it wrong because the Jesus stories are based upon the encounter Paul had with a time traveller plus the imagery from these cd-roms” (shown AND explained to John). Result - John’s Book of Revelation is his account of this encounter and includes the modern historical events told to him along with the images he saw from the cd-roms. While augmenting the Jesus Stories with a new prophetic text, this actually did not ‘birth’ a new religion. (But again, the Roman Christian Religion later use the ‘knowledge of the future’ to their advantage to continue to assert an emotional hold over their followers.) 6. Someone (named Gabriel), then went back again (ca. 600CE) and told Mohammed “whoops, the Hebrew and Roman Christian religions have got it wrong because they are based upon the images from these cd-roms” (shown to him, and known as the Night Journey). 6.b. Result - a brand new religion was birthed. 7. Someone, then went back again (ca. 1811) and visited Smith Snr in America and told him “whoops, the Muslim, Hebrew, Roman Christian and Other Christian religions have got it wrong because they are based upon the images from these cd-roms” (shown to him), Reasoning/evidence - Smith Snr tells of seeing the ‘animals in the box’ (ie. the animal icons from the Ancients main menu screen on the monitor). 7.b. Result - Confusion, but supports his son later when a similar story id told to him. 8. Someone (at least two), then went back again (ca. 1827) and visited Smith Jnr in America and him “whoops, the Muslim, Hebrew, Roman Christian and Other Christian religions have got it wrong because they are based upon the images from these cd-roms”. This time a different set of texts (ancient Hebrew historical texts) were given to Smith, which he translated. But just the compact disks were given with those other texts. Reasoning/evidence - picture of plastic jewel cases being held by witnesses. 8.b. The contemporary Church stopped Smith’s endeavour, and others later created the new Mormon Church based upon their interpretation that the time travellers were ‘aliens’ combined with the Christian religion.. These are just some of the main Faiths discovered by Pegg as having encounters with time travellers. There are many others, including Nostradamus. …..< Yours Faithfully, Eddy Pengelly On behalf of PPHC Study Group (Australia) PS As you can see, I do not know who the 'someone' is, but the evidence presented by Pegg derives the the above conculusion.

RE: “You still don't have an explanation for why the obsolete CD-ROM format was used to begin with.” Well, I actually have explained it to the best of my ability. It may be that you do not accept my explanations, or the context and reasons for the time travel back-steps allude you at this time. I have told you nearly everything I know. RE: “To a time traveler a flash drive is probably as ancient as a stone tablet is to us or are trying to say the time travelers come from a time close to ours?” You pose your own opinions based upon your own suppositions as questions. At this point of time I can not comment upon concepts that I have not studied. It would be amiss of me to comment upon assumptions that currently do not have firm answers. What I can comment upon are the physical observations when descriptions from ancient texts are compared with the pictures from the Ancients cd-rom. RE: “What you are saying is (correct me if I'm wrong) that the time travelers went back with what was to them obsolete technology because this guy Pegg found evidence of Said CD-ROMs in the past?” It seems that this is the conclusion drawn from my studies. As previously said… “If a different type of computer was taken back to the past each time, then there would not be a consistent trail of clues documented in ancient texts that could be traced back (forward) to a particular computer system. As Pegg was using the same computer and cd-roms that were documented in ancient texts, it was easy for him to identify the technology being described and the contents of the cd-roms.” As this is an on-going study, if new information comes to hand, then judgements may be amended. RE: “You raise more questions than you answer” Yes. This often happens as I read through Pegg’s work. Again, this is why I usually only comment upon topics that I have personally studied, evaluated, and confirmed.

RE: “Ok, lets assume you are correct, why would some future time traveler take an out dated piece of technology back in time with them? Why wouldn't they take a flash drive or something we dont' even know about? A flash drive makes much more sense than a CD-ROM.” I agree that a flash drive makes more sense (to us) but there was a reason. Here are answers to previous questions that should answer your question. Why did 'time messengers' keep taking back the same computer and cd-roms to the past ? The computer and cd-roms were the means by which certain information, particularly pictures, of the same modern events could be shown to ancient people in an attempt to make them document in their texts what will happen in their distant future. When it was discovered that a time experiment and visit to Mesopotamia was the initial cause of Religions, it was decided to show ancient people a particular future war (the 1991 Persian Gulf War) that will be fought in the name of Religion in the same country (now known as Iraq), in an attempt to persuade them that what the previous prophets saw was not from a divine God or gods . - Why were those particular cd-roms chosen ? Specifically, the Grolier cd-rom shows an audio-visual presentation of the future Mesopotamian (ie. Iraq) war. As previously noted, the Ancients cd-rom was relevant to neighbouring regions from which future civilizations would emerge. The RedShift2 cd-rom contains an astronomical event that occurred in 1992/4, being the comet ShoemakerLevy 9 incidents. They all contain particular historical information (ie. modern historical events and people) that provide a combined datable set of resources. While this data was shown to ancient people, it meant nothing to them, and as such, would not change or destroy the time line (ie. change our historical past). But because these (future) details were written down in ancient texts, when they actually occur (in the future), certain people would be able to recognize these events and literally decode the Bible (and other ancient texts). A more basic answer is that they are all of the same era, and as such, run on the same desktop computer system. One of the disks (Grolier) came with the PC386 cd-drive up-grade package. - Why did they take back a 386 personal desktop computer ? It was the minimum system that would run the four particular cd-roms. At some time in the future, someone was going to notice that the images from a certain cd-rom that run on a certain computer match to the described imagery by nearly all the ancient prophets. (From a religious perspective, this was the foretold 'unsealing of the Book with Seven Seals'.) That someone was Ronald Pegg from Queensland Australia (the biblical Second Witness). In contrast to all the previous ancient people who were shown the images on a computer due to some type of time travel encounter (ie. visions in a bright light by an angel), Pegg just went out and bought the current 'modern' computer package from his local shop - which just happened to include one of the cd-roms. If a different type of computer was taken back to the past each time, then there would not be a consistent trail of clues documented in ancient texts that could be traced back (forward) to a particular computer system. As Pegg was using the same computer and cd-roms that were documented in ancient texts, it was easy for him to identify the technology being described and the contents of the cd-roms. - Why not return to the past with more sophisticated wireless hardware ? For similar reasons as previously stated. Pegg may not have recognised sophisticated wireless hardware back in 1998 when he first made his cd-rom discoveries. A report made by Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery on Sunday April 3 1836 in Kirtland U.S.A. appears to describe a laptop computer, but this has not yet been verified. - Where was the electricity source to power computers in the ancient world ? It is surmized that if the technology was available to make and send a time machine, chrononauts, and a computer back in time, then it would be a relative simple matter to power an older style computer. It was earlier explained that Noah's Ark was a computer carry and storage box. The computer fitted into the smaller end, while the 200 x 50 x 30 cm end contains enough space for a series of batteries that would be able to power a computer. - Explaining computer usage to grandparents can pose a huge challenge even when there is no language barrier. How long did the messenger(s) stay in the past to teach people how to use the compact disks (ie. the sealed 'history books') ? It is believed that each visit was very short, and that only the particular ancient person (now known as a prophet) was shown the cd-rom presentations on a computer so they could record what they were told and what they viewed. They were not taught how to use the computer as such, but some were specifically shown how to load a new compact disk and use the mouse themselves (eg. John of Patmos and Nostradamus). - What language would have been used to communicate with all the different cultures given the obvious language diversity ? We do not know the answer to that, but language may not have been totally necessary. Pictures were the medium. You do not need words to show men fighting (in the case of the Grolier's War presentation). Any modern language spoken by the time messengers would not have been understood by the ancient Mesopotamians nor the Egyptians. But this question may be relevant for later encounters. The Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean CD-Rom was distributed in the four languages of English, French, German, and Italian. Was the Italian version sent back to the Roman and Greek eras (and to John on Patmos island) along with an Italian speaking chrononaut specifically to communicate with the Latin speaking Romans and Greeks (cf. Delphi Oracle) ? Was the French version and a French speaking chrononaut sent back to Nostradamus ? Was the German version being sent back to Martin Luther in Germany the catalyst for the Reformation in the 1500s ? Did Joseph Smith Jnr view the English version in circa 1830CE ? - - - Extracts from WBD website’s Qs & As page (used with permission)

NO. The ‘bullock’ is not a dog but actually a She-Wolf. This is stated on one of the cd-rom’s HELP pages. So sorry, YOUR incorrect opinion on just ONE of the many exact matches doesn’t void the presentations, nor does it make anything else ‘suffer’. BTW, I do not know why different cultures described the She-Wolf and the Capital icons in different ways. You obviously didn’t go to the conclusion page after the 10 evaluation pages, but you are not the first. So here, just for you… Others have phrased your doubt in this way: “I don’t see how this can be purported to be evidence of anything more than the CD graphics based on ancient text.” One set of matching details could just be a coincidence, and could be the result of the makers of the cd-rom using one particular set of ancient descriptions as their source and inspiration. Maybe also two or three (or four) could be passed off as 'just coincidences'. But ten ancient sets of details from different time periods and countries matching is beyond a coincidence. The same set of descriptions turn up in many ancient stories where most are associated with a messenger turning up in a bright light (or 'dream') carrying a stone of testimony (aka. wheel, tablet, plate, or disc) which tells of future things and provides 'visions'. These extra associated characteristics indicate that the same source was viewed by all the ancient writers and story tellers by the same means - and not that any one ancient story was the source used by the makers of the cd-rom for their imagery. Regarding people's own conclusions, we are often asked, concerning the observed evidence from these experiments as being identical or very close to the Ancients cd-rom pictures... Is the imagery, on the cd-rom, evidence of someone or a group of people travelling back in time and showing the ancient people the images from it, or was the Ancients cd-rom created by people that have read any or all of the texts? They may have only been inspired, even subconsciously, to make the cd-rom the same or very similar to what is in the ancient texts. If the descriptions in the Atlantis dialogues by Plato only matched to the cd-rom imagery, then, yes, you would have to conclude that the makers of the cd-rom used the Atlantis descriptions as inspiration. If the descriptions in the Bablylonian stories only matched to the cd-rom imagery, then, yes, you would have to conclude that the makers of the cd-rom used Bablylonian descriptions as inspiration. If...Akkadian…Aboriginal Dreamtime Stories...North American Indian Mythologies...Buddhism & Hindu Understanding...Old Testament...New Testament...Qur'an...Book of Mormon...each only matched, then, yes…… But all of the above cultures that DO match to the imagery from the Ancients cd-rom are NOT part of the history contained on that cd-rom. So why would the makers use imagery from over ten other cultures that they are not presenting on the cd-rom ? The civilizations presented are from around the Mediterranean region from betwen 2000 BCE and 476 CE, being Etruria, Carthage, Roman Empire, Greece, Phoenicia and Egypt. (The Egyptian section only presents seven video shows, and not pages of pictures.) The Etrurian section shows things Eturian… The Roman section shows things Roman… The Greece section shows things Greek… The Phoenician section shows things Phoenician… The Carthage section shows things Carthagian… …and NOT anything to do with Altantis, Babylon, Akkadia, Aboriginal Dreamtime Stories...North American Indian Mythologies...Buddhism & Hindu Understanding...Old Testament...New Testament...Qur'an, nor Book of Mormon. Specifically... Regarding: "Is the imagery, on the cd-rom, evidence of someone or a group of people travelling back in time and showing the ancient people the images from it." Based upon ten years of investigations - we believe yes. In the Old Testament (Ezekiel), New Testament (Revelation), and Qur'an (Mohammed) encounters where the cd-rom imagery is described, there is an Angel reported as being present, and in the Bible accounts, this angel has a 'sealed book with seven seals' that is opened, and from which 'visions' are seen by the prophet. That prophet's descriptions of these 'visions' are of the contents of the Ancients cd-rom. We conclude that this 'angel' is some form of time traveller.

Moderation Note: Moved to Strange Claims For many years, claims of ‘Evidence of Time Travel being found by the Australian researcher Ronald Pegg’ have been circulating around the internet. He claimed to have found descriptions in ancient texts that match to the contents of a certain 1995 produced multi-media compact disk. This would mean that somehow, modern technology was taken back in time for ancient people to view. It is asserted that “The documented accounts in certain ancient texts known as prophetic 'dreams' or 'visions' are about the contents and pictures from the 1995 Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean multi-media cd-rom”. Now you have the opportunity to evaluate this specific claim with a ‘verse by verse’ examination of ten texts that he said contains proof. UPDATE: June 2010 Five videos now introduce and show what type of computer technology and which cd-roms (ie. DOOPArts) has been documented and depicted by people in ancient times. Link: http://www.worldbreakingdiscoveries.com.au/forums/index.html After viewing them, you may wish to conduct the on-line Evaluation session.

PPHC-SG presents a new report regarding the Old Testament Book of Ezekiel chapters 1-4, 8, 9, 40, & 41. From 8 Chapters (involving 104 verses), 198 descriptions by Ezekiel have been found to match the imagery from the Ancients cd-rom. LINK to ‘Examine Ancient Texts for Evidence of Time Travel’ website Three more major reports will be made available from mid June 2008: - Egyptian texts, hieroglyphs, and stories about their Gods. - Plato's Critias and Timaeus dialogues: The legend of Atlantis. - Sumerian Clay Tablet stories by the scribe Endubsar.

One set of matching details could just be a coincidence, and could be the result of the makers of the cd-rom using one particular set of ancient descriptions. But over eight ancient sets of details matching is beyond a coincidence. The same set of descriptions turn up in many ancient stories where most are associated with a messenger turning up in a bright light (or 'dream') carrying a stone of testimony (aka. wheel, tablet, plate, or disc) which tells of future things and provides 'visions'. These extra associated characteristics indicate that the same source was viewed by all the ancient writers and story tellers by the same means.

Please be advised that 8 preliminary results are now available for viewing. The Study Criterion was completed and initial examination of selected texts undertaken. Pegg's 'Descriptive' Theory To test Pegg's theory we need to conduct a REALITY-CHECK to see if it is true for all, many, some, or no ancient texts. To do this we need to use 'If-Then' logic, and PREDICT what will happen when Pegg's theory is applied to other ancient texts. We then need to conduct EXPERIMENTS and OBSERVE what happens. If-Then Prediction In relation to the cited texts, IF the theory is correct, THEN we will observe that pictures from the Ancients cd-rom match to the descriptions in the cited ancient texts. If Pegg's theory fails our reality check because its predictions do not match observations, then it can be rejected as false. You now have the opportunity to examine 8 sets of observations to decide for yourself whether Pegg’s theory has merit or not. LINK to ‘Examine Ancient Texts for Evidence of Time Travel’ website These include (NT Revelation 4:6-7) OT Ezekiel 1:5,10 OT Daniel 7:3-8 Qur’an 42:32 (Nostradamus Century 1 Quatrain 81) Akkadian, Babylonian, Mesopotamian Creation Stories The Great Ennead of Heliopolis (Egyptian Gods) Plato's Critias Dialogue – City Beneath the Sea (Atlantis) The Egg of Brahma (Hindu Understanding) OT Genesis Chapter 1 (Accounts by Endubsar from Sumerian Clay Tablets)

Please be advised that a draft SEARCH CRITERION is now available for viewing along with HOW Texts have been selected for examination. Your suggested amendments and/or comments are welcomed. LINK to Search for Evidence of Time Travel website EXPERIMENTS will soon be conducted to TEST Ronald Pegg’s theory regarding ‘Evidence of Time Travel being documented in Ancient Texts’.

The latter. Actual time travel by humans back to the past. Yes. For example: Ezekiel and Daniel (OT), and John (Revelations from NT), and Nostradamus. But in the cases of the biblical people, they all document that an ANGEL showed them ‘future things and visions’ and told them of ‘future historical and astronomical events’. I believe that texts such as these may contain evidence of time travel encounters. What if a modern technological object is documented and described in an ancient text, or a modern data storage device is depicted and its contents described in detail. Would this be evidence of time travel IF the identity of the modern data storage device was known AND the described contents from the ancient text exactly matches to the contents of that modern storage device ? But what if all those texts contain only part of the puzzle pieces ? When all are examined, time travel encounters may be revealed. If so, what rules do we use to verify these things ?

Greetings from Australia I wish to establish a set of rules for studying Evidence of Time Travel. This study is not about 'How time travel works' nor 'When was a time machine invented'. It is not asking for opinions whether time travel is possible or not, but simply… Is there any evidence documented in ancient texts that relate to visits to the past ? PURPOSE and AIMS - To seek out and identify any evidence of Time Travel that may be documented in ancient texts. - Create a set of rules for this task. - Scrutinize and examine past information and any new evidence found - using an organized peer process of evaluation. - Make a Judgement based upon the evidence presented, then state a Conclusion. METHOD I am seeking a ‘Submission of Ideas’ regarding how to go about gathering information and then evaluating it. STEP 1 . Develop a Search Criterion STEP 2 . Gather Evidence STEP 3 . Examine and Evaluate evidence STEP 4 . Form a Judgement and Conclusion I am hoping your members will be able to contribute to my project with ideas or comments. LINK to Ideas Submission website Submissions may be cited on the website. Yours Faithfully, Eddy Pengelly On behalf of PPHC Study Group, Australia.

Topic: The little “Sealed Book” that contained 'future information and visions' that was cited in various prophetic ancient texts. Claim: The Queensland researcher, Ronald Pegg, says he discovered the identity of it. Conducting his own private study in February/March 2008, Robert Pengelly, an Adelaide group leader for PPHC Study Group, presents a set of articles and reports regarding his investigation of this amazing claim: Findings are presented in Reports for the following ancient texts: Old Testament - Ezekiel, Daniel, and Genesis New Testament - Revelation Middle Eastern Legends and Stories The Egyptian Gods of Heliopolis Legend Link: Robert Pengelly's ANCIENT MYSTERIES Sessions Feb-Mar 2008

No. It is a conclusion based upon the presented evidence by the Mormon witnesses and associated illustration. 1. The Mormon witnesses are holding either a clear a) glass, or :confused: plastic square container. Plastics were not yet developed at that time in the early to mid 1800s in America, so the first presumption is that is has to be a glass plate (probably photographic). BUT 2. The Mormon witnesses document and explain what this “plate” contained… "the teachings of the prophets; the history by Mormon; a commentary by Moroni; and a record of the Jews" For over 170 years this did not seem to make sense, as the ‘glass plate’ was transparent thus not containing any images nor information. Pegg’s theory is that is it a plastic cd-case that held the HOLY BIBLE cd-rom (due to Time Travel, etc, etc.) Method Compare the Mormon descriptions with the contents of 1. a blank mid 1800s glass plate. 2. A mid 1990s plastic cd-case that contained the ‘Holy bible’ cd-rom (described in other Mormon texts as “The Plate of Brass” [due to its brass colour]). Option 2 provides an exact match of details. Conclusion. The object held and illustrated in the mid 1800s and described by Joseph Smith (elsewhere as a ‘seer stone’) was the HOLY BIBLE compact disk. .

Thanks for your time and the links. The “Golden Plates” are not to what Pegg refers. It is the accompanying items: “…along with which would be found "two stones in silver bows” ” - the “other artifacts”. Joseph Smith in 1827 reports that "Also, there were two stones in silver bows-and these stones, fastened to a breastplate, constituted what is called the Urim and Thummim- deposited with the plates". Ronald Pegg claims that this testimony declared at the front of the Book of Mormon by Joseph Smith accounts for the two cd-roms – Ancients and Grolier - where: The "stones" = the compact disks; The "breastplate" = the base-plate that holds a compact disk in place; The "silver bows" = the two plastic cases (seen being held in the Mormon picture). Now to quote one of the links you provided: This is what I derive from the citations… “’Interpreters’, a pair of crystals joined in the form of a large pair of spectacles” = a two part joined, opened plastic cd-case (with the black breast-plate removed). Physical Test: Grab a mid 1990s plastic cd-case, open it up, take out the black base-plate, put them to your eyes and look in a mirror - they look like large crystal (ie. glass-like) spectacles. Golden Plates = book-like metal plates (as you point out). “along with which would be found ‘two stones in silver bows’ fastened to a breastplate, which the angel called the Urim and Thummim” = 2 plastic (mid 1990s) cd-cases with 2 compact disks fastened to the 'black' breast-plate. The "stones" = the compact disks; The "breastplate" = the black base; The "silver bows" = the two plastic cases. I was previously not aware of the "spectacles” description by Smith. This extra bit of information adds strength to Pegg’s claim, as an opened plastic cd-case DOES look like spectacles - being a reasonable description by a mid 1800s person. Note: “turn ‘spectacles’ into a CD-ROM drive and a laptop” has never been said nor implied by Pegg or myself.

This question has been previously asked of Ronald Pegg in 2001… His answer was as follows (used with permission).. It does look like a glass plate, doesn't it, and historically, photographic glass plates of that size were invented in that century, around the year Joseph Smith took possession of his "religious" articles. Add to this the fact that plastic was not discovered until much later, the notion of it being a plastic compact disk container seems to go against logic. So we must carefully evaluate all the evidence to enable us to make a conclusion whether this is a picture of a glass (photographic) plate or a plastic compact disk container. Glass Plate In 1822 the "Camera", and in 1826 "Photography" were invented by Joseph Niepce. These devices utilized photographic glass "plates" and varied in size, but were approximately six to eight inches square and contained an image on the face of the glass when exposed. So they either had an image on them when they were exposed, or were blank and clear before they were exposed. Other than that, there was no content within the plate itself. Plastic Container On page 27 of the Mormon publication (6/95) "Truth Restored" is a picture of the Eight Witnesses and Smith holding the above box, and is partly entitled "and held in their hands the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated". On the 'Brief Explanation About' page of The Book of Mormon, it is explained that "the teachings of the prophets; the history by Mormon; a commentary by Moroni; and a record of the Jews" were contained in these plates. (Could a blank glass plate contain all that information ?) One plate in particular, The Plate of Brass, is said to have contained "the five books of Moses, a record of the Jews, and also the prophecies of the holy prophets". These are referring to the Pentateuch, the Historical Writings (of Kings and Chronicles for example), and the Prophetic books. Comparison Visual evidence from the above picture gives that either a glass plate or a plastic compact disk container is being held in the person's hand. Now to take into account what was contained in that plate. Does a blank, unexposed (or exposed) glass photographic plate (of the mid 1800s) contain "the five books of Moses, the Historical Writings of the Jews, and the prophecies of the holy prophets" ? NO This is the Holy Bible CD-Rom. It is a brass colour. A compact disk looks somewhat like a plate. Compact disks are normally housed in a plastic container. They can contain much information. Does this Brass Plate contain "the five books of Moses, the Historical Writings of the Jews, and the prophecies of the holy prophets" ? YES From the visual and documented evidence, the glass photographic plate is NOT the answer. Pegg’s Conclusion was that the Mormon prophet was describing a specific compact disk, being ‘brass’ in colour, that was held in a plastic cd-case (as earlier illustrated), being the Holy Bible CD-Rom. .

Modern Technology Found Documented and Depicted In Ancient Texts A picture from America in the mid 1800s shows a group of men holding a plastic Compact Disk Case. . But plastic had not yet been invented at the time ! . Picture link: Modern Technology Found Documented and D... - Care2 News Network .

Evidence of TIME TRAVEL found in ancient Texts Between 1996 and 2002 in AUSTRALIA, a Queensland researcher named Ronald Pegg discovered evidence of modern computer technology and descriptions of compact disks and their imagery in many of the world's ancient stories, legends, and texts - and found that Certain noted Angels giving 'visions of the future' who were documented in the sacred texts of the Hebrew, Christian, Muslim, and Mormon faiths (and others) - were not of a divine origin. They were actually human chrononauts taking back warning messages concerning false religions, details of certain historical and astronomical events, and a chronology regarding a future war. Those technological time travellers were misunderstood and perceived as 'Angels'. Also, the reported ancient gods of the Middle East including the Egyptian gods and the GOD of the Creation Legend (aka. Yahweh or Allah), the gods of classical Greece and Rome (and many other legends from around the world), plus the Son of GOD (aka. Jesus) - do not refer to divine beings. The concept of 'god(s)' was an unfortunate side effect of the Time Travellers' visits to the past, where either the chrononauts themselves were perceived as 'god(s)' or what they were showing and telling became perceived as being 'of the god(s)'. To correct these misunderstandings Time Travellers told biblical prophets (such as Moses, Daniel and John) the cause and source of those religions and when their origins would be revealed, being around the time of the foretold 'future world war'. Ronald Pegg asserted that Ancient documented encounters with certain 'Gods' or 'Angels' were accounts of targeted visits to the past by human Time Travellers; Those encounters often sparked new Religions or spawned new Belief Systems because the Time Travellers were misunderstood and perceived as either Gods or Angels; They took back with them specific history books to warn of false religions by describing a series of associated astronomical and historical events leading to a future 'world war'.WORLD BREAKING DISCOVERIES presents News Headlines and Reports revealing astounding evidence that includes where reports of time travellers and their equipment appear in ancient texts the identity of the modern history books taken back which prophets had personal encounters with time travellers where these prophets document the contents of those history books and reveals the particular historical and astronomical events documented in the Bible (known as SIGNS) which religions are based upon these encounters, and the location and date of the foretold war (as documented in Daniel and Revelations) Link to Reports: World Breaking Discoveries. A New Era Begins .

Australia. Announcement: Six thousand years of Religious History has been Shattered Two Australian researchers have unravelled some of the mysteries that have formed civilizations throughout six millennium. While investigating stories contained in many ancient texts, Ronald Pegg and Eddy Pengelly uncovered evidence of computer technology being described in well known religious stories and classical legends. They revealed: Evidence of computer technology described in the Bible. Documented ‘Angelic Messengers’ identified as technological Time Travellers. Purpose of visits to past to warn of War. The future ‘Historical Events’ (Signs) foretold by these ‘messengers’ are now known. The ‘Sealed Book’ used and cited by these messengers has been identified. Certain ancient people (now known as ‘prophets’) encountered these Time Messengers. The Prophets mistakenly regarded these Time Messengers as gods, God, or Angels. The prophets’ stories of their encounter with ‘Gods or Angels’ became further distorted, and those supernatural legends, myths, and stories became the basis for Religious Texts. Over time, compiled pious texts were deemed to be absolute evidence of a supreme God. Devout worship of the characters portrayed in the misconstrued stories evolved into modern Religions. Eastern and Western versions of the Creation Story are also based upon Time Messenger encounters. Nostradamus was visited by a Time Messenger, and was shown and told of future events. Source of the above extraction Other Press Releases by Australian internet publisher World Breaking Discoveries include: - Computer Technology found in Ancient Egypt - Computer Technology depicted in Egyptian Hieroglyphs - Australian Time Detectives Unearth the Past - Religious People and Atheists are both Wrong about God - Q Source of the Synoptic Gospels Found - The Creation Myth Exposed - The Book of Revelations - Finally Understood Following these news headlines, an invitation to conduct a Peer Review of 10 years of research and evidence regarding these and many other topics is offered. Link: WBD Press Releases

List of Ronald Pegg's Discoveries plus Current Topic being Examined PPHC Study Group continues to investigate the claims of the Queensland researcher, Ronald Pegg. 1. Australian based PPHC Study Group releases a summarized list of Ronald Pegg's Discoveries. 2. Public help sought to investigate new findings - A compact disk plus its imagery have been depicted in Egyptian hieroglyphs. 1. Here are some of the many Discoveries announced by Ronald Pegg between 1998 and 2002 'I have found a Word Code that has been hidden in the Bible's translated words. Upon using this code I found the following messages that reveal what has been covered over for more than three millennium.' The biblical 'End Time War' of Daniel Chapter 11 and Revelations Chapter 9 is describing the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Genesis 2:10-14 pinpoints the country involved as being between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers - ie. Iraq. The Identity of the two Witnesses of Revelations Chapter 11 has been found. Ezekiel, Daniel, and John were told about the activities of these two Witnesses by their 'holy messengers' and have noted their activities in their personal accounts. While un-named in the New Testament, the Second Witness is called the "Teacher" by Nostradamus, in the Muslim Koran the "Un-Lettered prophet", and in the Old Testament he is generally referred to as "the son" (of the First Witness). The Identity of the 'Book with Seven Seals' has been found. It is a modern 'history book' - in the form of a cd-rom. The imagery described by Ezekiel and Daniel comes from the 1995 Ancients Civilizations of the Mediterranean cd-rom. This historical 'electronic book' has seven active icons on its menu page (being the seven noted seals). The imagery described by Moses and John comes from three cd-roms: 1995 Ancients Civilizations of the Mediterranean : 1993 Grolier Encyclopedia : 1998 RedShift 2. Babylonian and Hebrew Creation accounts are descriptions of the imagery from the start-up sequence from the Ancients cd-rom, as too are the described characteristics of Egyptian and Akkadian mythological Gods. The Egyptian notion of 'Seven Underworlds' is an explication of visiting the seven screens that lie beneath the active icons of the Ancients cd-rom (ie. the Seven Seals). The described 'wonders in heaven' of Revelations Chapter 12 relate to images of the planet Jupiter and the Comet ShoemakerLevy9 from the astronomical RedShift2 cd-rom, and have been used by the 'holy messengers' to date and associate the disclosure by Dr Rips (in August 1994) concerning a Code in the Book of Genesis being found. The comet impacted Jupiter in July 1994. The same imagery from the Ancients and Grolier cd-roms is described in the works of Nostradamus, who also describes the undertakings of the Second Witness and has drawn a depiction of him. The Atlantis legend and its described imagery are accounts of seeing a certain five ringed island and city from the Ancients cd-rom. Many archaic stories contain accounts of cd-roms being seen. Egyptian scribes exactly depicted them on their temple walls. The Ancients disk was one of the Two 'Stone' Tables of Testimony of which Moses spoke. It was also seen by other Middle Eastern peoples. In a Mesopotamian story it was called the 'Tablet of Destiny', and was known as 'a Roll of a Book' by Ezekiel (2:9), as the 'Sealed Book' by Daniel (12:4), as 'a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals' by John (Rev 5:1), and elsewhere as 'the Wheel of Destiny of Nations' by Nostradamus (France), and as one of the 'Two Stones in Silver Bows' by Smith (in America). The "Holy Messengers" (aka. Angels) were some type of Time Travellers who took modern history books and cd-roms back to the past. Their purpose was to correct a series of mistakes that have occurred due to other interfering time travel 'back-steps'. The sacred area of the Egyptian and Hebrew Temples contained a computer that was brought back by the messengers. The biblical 'Ark of the Covenant' and 'Tabernacle' descriptions refer to parts of a computer system utilized as the priests were shown the cd-roms. Nostradamus didn't make 'prophecies' - he was told of and viewed 'future history' on a computer. He then encoded historical information taken specifically from the Grolier cd-rom in his various written works and illustrations. The messengers who appeared in a 'bright light' (including a burning bush) that are chronicled in ancient religious stories were actually time travelling emissaries who took back a computer and some cd-roms. They were perceived as either gods or angels. Ancient people whom we now called prophets or seers wrote about their encounter with these 'messengers' and related the history and pictures they saw on the computer and cd-roms. The future history of which they wrote - has already occurred, and can be found in 21st century history books. The descriptions of beasts and cities of which they wrote - are of the pictures from the named cd-roms. # # # The News Headline section of the PPHC-SG website provides some visual evidence of these accounts. More comprehensive information may be found in the Member's RESOURCE CENTRE Source: http://www.pphcstudygroup.org.au/ 2. Since 2002 many perplexing claims made by Ronaldd Pegg have been investigated by PPHC Study Group. One in particular that he asserted was that a certain Compact Disk was seen in the ancient past - and that some of its contents have been described in ancient texts. Our News Headline section shows many examples. Our current investigation is whether the form of a compact disk plus its imagery have been depicted in Egyptian hieroglyphs. Visit Current topic being Investigated for details of what we have found so far. Eddy Pengelly, on behalf of PPHC Study Group (Australia)