Higgs field's thing is not for you, I was answering to ralfcis.
We are mixing topics here, and it's wrong. The original topic and my OP was about WHO developed E=mc2, not its validity.
The topic was derailed by my post #6, where I introduced the issue of dis-information along history, since 1939 and the A bomb.
Because of that, I opened a second thread on this particular subject:
Now, I refresh some points of the post #4, about the cult around relativity and the derivation of E = mc2.
But still, the development of the cult persisted around him and many of his sub-theories:
1) E=mc2 is written in stone. I understand WHY (it simplifies posterior expressions at physics and chemistry). It's easier to talk about MeV.
2) Time dilation is written in stone. I barely understand why, but it's useful to explain things that CAN'T find a logical explanation.
3) Length contraction and mass increase are abandoned concepts. Even Einstein himself, in his last days, repudiated the second concept.
Relativistic momentum is the replacement for mass increase, while length contraction is something about you DON'T TALK anymore.
4) Space-time: Not an Einstein's conception (Minkowski), but embraced by him and his mate Grossman as one of the three pillars of GTR.
5) 3D space bending: This violation of rationality is the core of the GTR and its consequences (space dilation) is foundational for the
cosmological model Lambda-CDM, supported by most of the cosmologists.
6) Light speed constancy and it's independence from the motion of its sources. I have no words for this. Every proof against it is supressed.
So, exchemist, there you have it. These are the main reasons by which I find amusing to poke Einstein's original theories.
I can't do the same with the ten of thousands of scientist that followed him, and supported his ideas. Too much work.
Read again my point 1). I'm accepting that expressing mass in MeV is very compact and convenient at nuclear physics, OK?
Regarding that I challenged E=mc2 to be either wrong or useless when becoming to nuclear physics, this is something that you
made up by yourself.
What I'm saying is that E=mc2 doesn't explain the energy liberated in nuclear fission, and that it is an historical falsification.
I don't care about mass defect. I understand that the stablishe values don't match and that such a concept has to be developed
in order to assign differences when counting mass-energy to some kind of energy, which is not gluonic.
Focus on what I'm talking about at the center of this complex issue: I'm telling you that the early explanation of the 200 MeV that
were liberated at the fission of U-235 and expressed in the article of Lise Meitzner from January 1939 is utter crap, because she
didn't know details of what Otto Hahn did at the lab, when she was in another country!
I also question that such amount (200 MeV) has been kept as valid for 80 years.
So, you are the one who own me an explanation: Tell me HOW did she knew about those 200 MeV; also tell me which was the
popular explanation about HOW those 200 MeV were composed (KE, gamma rays, etc,) and, finally, tell me if TODAY this
figure is still substained in nuclear physics and what modern science says about its decomposition in different types of energy.
But you'll have to be coherent enough to sustain those 200 MeV along 80 years of history, as if Lise was some kind of ET life
form, capable of having "remote vision" and telepathy, besides being the greatest scientist of the XX century for the exact
prediction of such amount of energy at a distance and without being part of the experiments by which Hahn won the Nobel.
The chain reaction of 200MeV plus three neutrons per fission of U-235 atom is, given a critical mass, the explanation for the
A bomb destructive power: N x 200MeV, where N is the amount of U-235 atoms involved.
If this is true, then a relativist thinking of a train moving at constant "v" and a platform with a point-like mass that emitted two
beam lights of L/2 energy each in 1905 (with all that he DIDN'T know) is the the REAL FATHER OF THE ATOMIC BOMB.
This is the point under discussion here, not nuclear binding energies that STILL REMAIN TO BE EXPLAINED (gluons, etc.).
If you prove that 200 MeV per U-235 atoms were calculated using E=mc2 by a person who was almost a peasant by using
1945 standards of knowledge, then Einstein is NOT ONLY the greatest genius of the whole history of mankind but, probably,
the luckiest person at the entire Universe because he foresaw 40 years of development when was writing his WRONG paper.
And that was wrong is widely known, as he derived an approximation and never was able to develop the whole formulae for
the complete range of velocities between 0 and "c".
Now, if you answer this post, please refer only to this subject: 200 MeV, U-235 fission, E=mc2 and the uranium A-Bomb.
Nothing else is under discussion for me at this thread, for now.
I repeat: I don't question the use of m = E/c2 in nuclear physics, using eV. It's very handy, and I use it myself for calculations,
as it much easier than use 36.44548.10-28 Kg or similar units.