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#1 Emre_1974tr



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:14 PM


The age of the universe is three times the age of our Earth.

Quran 50:38. We assuredly created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and nothing of fatigue touched us.

Quran 41.9 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.

 So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.

 Today, science also gives a similar knowledge: Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....

 In other words, science indicates that the age of our universe is 3 times the age of our Earth(4.5 X 3 = 13.5).

I answer to those who object to me saying, "But this rate is valid only in our day": Our universe / universes are 6 days old, the Earth has 2 days of eviction, the age of the universe is three times the world's age, When the Quran landed.

And science is introducing us with a new miracle to say the same thing.

In the meantime, I would like to share my remarks in the light of the Qur'an about how the universes were created together (in Turkish):

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And this link is explained in the verses I mentioned in my study; The fact that stars are shooting light / flames may now be discovered / displayed:

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The miracles / evidences of the Qur'an are emerging and appear with ever increasing impression.

Peace and love


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#2 Emre_1974tr



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:18 PM

Our Creator is timeless and placeless as being.. He created the time and the place.

 But as manager-observer (from the outside) He is at all the points of the place, and at all time points ...


 We are at "now point" and we are traveling towards the forward, future points.

 But our Lord does not travel in time points.

 The concepts of the past, the future, the present time, are ours.

 There's no travel for him.

 Always observe and manage the point.

 There's no need for him to go there and travel.

 When called "be timeless" to people,they think it's like a way of life that only the wrist watch has stopped working, but the other elements continue to be the same. No, as I described above, the lack of time is a completely different situation that we cannot even imagine. The past, the future, the present moment, there are no separate concepts.

 Just as our Lord is without place, He is outside of the universe, He do not travel in our universe but we know, from outside as a manager our Lord, who is also timeless in the same way, is again out of time, but a manager-observer at all time points (from outside).

 If we go back to a time machine, and go to the future and the past, we will realize that God also ruled that time period. And the time inside the time machine ...

 But let's tell again;

 As "Being", God is not in anything and is separate from all creation.

 Outside of time and space/place...

 We are in time and space. They were already created for us ...

 And since our Lord is separate from all creation, it is a great sin to attribute a partner to God, because nothing He has created is a part or reflection of Him.

 I would like to bring it from here to the expression "the floor of the Lord" in the Qur'an.

 In the Qur'an, I think that Rabbin is used in two meanings.

 1- In the eyes of Allah ...

 2- It is used in the meaning of the universe of eternity hereafter

 In the Qur'an, the word " floor of Lord" is the name of the afterlife universe with different laws of physics than ours. For example, unlike our universe, there is life here, and there is no question of aging, deterioration of the material.

 And this time on the "Floor of the Lord" (Indallah) is different according to our time:

 - Actually, a day on your floor of the Lord is like a thousand years that you are counting. (Surat al-Hajj, 47)

 Because our Lord is timeless, it is used here not in the sense of "in the presence of God" but in the meaning of "the hereafter". In our world a thousand years pass, there is only one day in the floor of Lord.

 Surely Allah Almighty has created this space. But the name "Floor of Lord" gave it the name it created this time. It is just a definition like "The servant of Allah", " or "The Messenger of Allah" ...

 Surat al-Hajj 47 The one who urgently wants a chastisement: God never contradicts the promise. It is also a fact that a day on the side of the Lord is like a thousand years that you are counting.

 Surat al-Bakar 112 The work is not like them, but when they deliver their face to Allah with good behavior, there is a reward on the Lord's side. There is no fear for them; they will not worry ...

 Ali Surah 15: Say, "Do you notify me better than this?" For those who are guarded and protected, there will be gardens, rivers flowing under them, and rivers flowing under them, pure wives and a pleasure from Allah. Allah sees His servants in the best form. "

 En'am Suresi 127 The peace and well-being of their Lord is their dwelling place. Because of the fact that they are works, He has become their Veli.

 Surat al-A'raf 206 Those who are on the side of the Lord do not turn away from Him, They will glorify Him and prostrate Him alone.

 Heaven and hell already exist, and some exceptions people have begun to live their punishment or rewards by being created physically there unexpectedly in the Day of Resurrection (knowing that other people will wait for Resurrection and account). For example:

 -Think not of those who are slain in Allah.s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the floor of their Lord;

 - Allah is pleased with the blessing he has bestowed upon them, and about the Mujahideen who have not joined them as martyrs behind them: "They have no fear, and they will not hear sadness." are found. (Surat al-Fitr 169-170)

 According to these verses;

 1- While other dead people are really dead (waiting for the resurrection), the martyrs are alive differently from them.

 2- They live in blessings on the floor of the Lord (in the Hereafter)

 3. When they speak in heaven, they give good news about the people who are still in the world and / or who have not yet been resurrected after they have been killed (they also say words that they will participate in the Jenny)

 However, the point to be noted here is that the people who are now in heaven (in the Rabbinic Floor) are as physical as us, they are materially alive. Already according to the Qur'an, there is no such thing as souls, spiritual life. Everlasting life is also the body. All creatures, including angels and goblins, are already members (for example, if we were created from earth, the jinn were also created from fire). You can also read my article on "Nobody has got ghost according to Quran".

 Quran (51:22) And in the heaven is your provision and whatever you are promised.

 Quran (57:21) Race one with another for forgiveness from your Lord and a Garden whereof the breadth is as the breadth of the heavens and the earth, which is in store for those who believe in Allah and His messengers. Such is the bounty of Allah, which He bestoweth upon whom He will, and Allah is of infinite bounty.

 The width of heaven is called sky and ground. In other words, it is pointed out that heaven/paradise is as big as our universe. This is again the evidence that the eternity dwelling is a universe of its own, with its laws of physics. In other words, the place is not in the size of a garden or city, but in a gigantic dimension as the world we live in with its planets and heavens.

 Floor of Lord is the name of a universe that Allah has created from nothing. The eternity is in that house, there are already inhabitants and waiting for the others.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:19 PM

Hereafter Universe (Floor of Lord) and eternal life

 The living creatures in the Hereafter universe (Floor of Lord) are immortal and continue their lives forever (in fixed form) without aging. People will begin to live in this afterlife in the next creation from the Day of Judgment, but some exceptions people (like martyrs and prophets) are already living their physical and physical lives in heaven:

 -Think not of those who are slain in Allah.s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the floor of their Lord;

 - Allah is pleased with the blessing he has bestowed upon them, and about the Mujahideen who have not joined them as martyrs behind them: "They have no fear, and they will not hear sadness." are found. (Surat al-Fitr 169-170)


 56. Also mention in the Book the case of Idris: He was a man of truth (and sincerity), (and) a prophet:

 57. We raised him in a high/lofty place.

 Al-i İmran 55. Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

 Those who stay outside of this exception will begin their afterlife in the aftermath.

 And in the Floor of Lord (ie the hereafter universe with different laws of physics) life is eternal:

 Nisa 122. But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness,- we shall soon admit them to gardens, with rivers flowing beneath,-to dwell therein for ever. Allah´s promise is the truth, and whose word can be truer than Allah´s?

 Rad 24. "Peace unto you for that ye persevered in patience! Now how excellent is the final home!"

 Some people are strangely welcomed by the eternal experience of eternity, and then "are those living things not divine?" They use expressions that indicate their confusion, asking questions.

 First of all, we are created, we have a beginning. We are also always on time and space. In contrast, Almighty Allah is timeless and without space.

 And we will continue to remain as limited entities at the beginning, and we, the servants who have to travel over time.

 If we will return to the Hereafter experience; there will be eternal life forever, but our age will never be eternal. Because our lives have a beginning, and every year our age will increase, will grow constantly, but will always correspond to a number.

 1 .......................... 789 ...................... ......... ... 1122333 ........................ 12233499988779 ......

 Each passing year my old age will be an addition and will never be infinitely large. However, this event will last forever.

 In brief, the eternal life of the hereafter is eternal, but the ages of those who live are limited to a certain extent. But it will be an endless journey back up.

 We will see how much progress in the age of a man in heaven, that we are a beginner when we go back. Time (years-age) will increase constantly, but since it is the beginning, it will always correspond to a number.

 In the meantime, a mysterious closed-minded, open-ended infinite length is completely wrong in mathematics.

 Something must be both inexperienced and eternal so that it can be infinitely long.

 If a road ends in the back, then the road is finish.

 During the journey to the Acanthus, the figures constantly grow, but never, no matter how long it grows, it does not reach forever.

 A B C.......

 The point between A and the point reached is always bound to be a certain length.

 The life of the Hereafter will last forever, but as I said before, when we rewind, we arrive at the beginning when we travel backwards, and there (backward) the road ends.

 In short we will live forever but our age will never be eternal (because our being is the beginning of our existence).

 We will be eternal, but we will continue to be limited beings as we are not eternal and we have to travel in time-space.

 It is our Lord, who is unlimited, timeless and unmeasured. Moreover, the life of the living beings in the hereafter is a state of fulfillment with the will of our Lord. The Supreme Creator can exist forever without needing anything, but the servants can exist through Him. This is stated in the verses:


 107. They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: for thy Lord is the (sure) accomplisher of what He planneth.

 108. And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break.

 Almighty Allah says that we will be forever for what He wants.

 And he says, "If I can not wish reverse, I will never let the others out"

 And he promises you will not.

 In other words, "I may change this provision if I wish, but I am using an expression that means that the heavenly peoples will stay there forever, because I want it with free will." When we consider all this, we can easily see that our eternal life does not sanctify us, that we will always continue to be servants as in this world.

 Greetings and love.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:34 PM

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