tylerngo Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Hello everyone,I am trying to run the conversion of a diketo ester into a diketo hydroxamic acid (never described I think).To avoid, hydrolysis product or degradation of the starting material, I chose a procedure that does not involve strong basic conditions (see scheme below).The thing is, I don't know which product is formed.In LCMS, I have one peak only with the mass 434- The starting material is entirely consumed (comparison of retention times and mass)- The corresponding methyl ketone is not regenerated (not the same retention time and mass)- The diketo acid is not formed- When I test the product with FeCl3, the test is positive I get a red complexThe mass missing from the product I want is 15, like a CH3 but I don't have any methanol, I wanted to avoid transesterification so I used ethanol.Since I don't see hydrogens of OH et NH in NMR, I don't know which experiment I could use to understand the structure I formed !Thank you for your help, Brumer Quote
exchemist Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Hello everyone, I am trying to run the conversion of a diketo ester into a diketo hydroxamic acid (never described I think).To avoid, hydrolysis product or degradation of the starting material, I chose a procedure that does not involve strong basic conditions (see scheme below). The thing is, I don't know which product is formed. In LCMS, I have one peak only with the mass 434 - The starting material is entirely consumed (comparison of retention times and mass)- The corresponding methyl ketone is not regenerated (not the same retention time and mass)- The diketo acid is not formed- When I test the product with FeCl3, the test is positive I get a red complex The mass missing from the product I want is 15, like a CH3 but I don't have any methanol, I wanted to avoid transesterification so I used ethanol. Since I don't see hydrogens of OH et NH in NMR, I don't know which experiment I could use to understand the structure I formed ! Thank you for your help, BrumerAgain your drawing has not come through. A bit hard to understand what is going on without seeing the reaction scheme. But you may find a site with more working chemists on it is better than this one. I'm the only chemist here and I have only done organic synthesis problems at university. Quote
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