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Hehe, i understand it seems a little unfocused . But as i say, i mean that Electricity is the only energi, that is a kind of "Exposed" to the human eye. Yes, you can se a ball being thrown into the air, and the arm that throws it, but what you don't see, is some kind of heat or light (Both energy, that we a capable of sensing). Yet i see electricity as the ultimatum in energy, since of all the possibilitys. Like the Human brain. The signals that forms the way we move, feel and sense, are all small impulses, like electricity. This gives Frankenstein his monster as well. The idea is to have unlimited energy. This is unimpossible at the moment, but right now we can, with electricity, generate speed, heat and signals. Makes me believe, that electricity is much more interesting than so much else. What i think of right now, is, now you say gravity is this manifestation, does it affect electricity at all? A lightning for example, needs a source and a target that can absorbe it. But what if we had, say, a Black Hole? Unlimited mass, yes, but does this mass maybe suck the electricity?

By the way, should there be anything else concerning the case of dr. Mallet. I found a rapport on him here: Ronald Mallett time machine - Cetin BAL - GSM:+90 05366063183 -Turkiye/Denizli

But thank you for the replies !

(Sorry for the "Energetic" mispelling btw.) <- (Haha...)

I have a lot on mind, and soon there will be subjects about energi... So lets just begin here :D: Gravity = "Energi", Magents = "Energi". So Electricity = Easiest way to "control" (Use) this "Energi". We are all filled with energy. And the atoms we consist of, are also kept together and made with energi. So if we took some electricity, would we not be able to use this more or less "controlled" kind of energi (Electricity), to alter and change just about anything? The world consists of energi and atoms made and put together with this. So at the moment i see things like Dr. Tesla did. Might something seem true in this, that we might use electricity to alter around us? Maybe mix it with some new technology, to for example revert a targeted amount of atoms, to reverse them, thus making them rejecting each other, and "desolve" an object? :)

Hm, i believe the light beam bouncing up and down is a mere way to show how the time is slowed, since, as you said, c is constant. Yet i still have a difficult time discribing how these things works out as they look in my head. But i am sure that time is, theoreticly, bended by gravity. And as i see it, a potent gravity can bend light, and i think that, what im saying wrong, is that light is simply just a way of showing how time bend, since light is what we see (colour and so on). So maybe it is all a way of showing it. After i read what you write, i notice how Mallets theori, is pure rubbish. But he has still reached a surdent status with his theori, and more scientists seems to support him. It must be I that fails to explain/understand it correctly? Mallet shows something that looks more like confusing light, thus cheating time somehow.

Hmmm. I believe that when we say time, we mean a thing that our mind sees, and when we look at a tree, the leafs and colours has to be processed before it reaches out central nerve system. This takes time, and though its only a small amount, we must have some kind of slowed sence of time. This makes the theori of slowing light = slowing time in our minds, as positive. I also think of Einsteins theories. Taking a ship travelling at half the speed of light, and carrying a constant beam bouncing up and down in a tube for example. The light in the tube has to travel "Zig-Zag", thus (maybe) slowing down "time". Of course only for the person in the space ship. And the slowing comes from the fact that light is constant. So no matter how fast you travel, you will never be able to se the light slower in action (Like sitting in a car, and another car passes by, only travelling 10 km/h more than you), so time must slow down for your brain. The light slowed down in this crystal, is in this case the "normal" beam of light, while the photon is the spaceship travelling. But in this case it travels "double" the speed of the other light.

Exactly. And slowing down the time (and reflecting it in a circle), and afterwards sending a single photon down in the center of the crystal/glass, where it is not slowed, some changes must have been made. I stumpled upon this picture by the way:

Haha, but silly of course. If you ask me, we can already use time travelling by sending out spaceships in orbits, but only to slow down time a little. But think about it. If you reach a speed equal to half of light speed, you would already be slowing down your own time. How to reach that speed you might think? = Black Holes. With a very precise calculation, you might use the Black hole to do so without being sucked in the middle. (Maybe you can use the light coming out of it from the middle, just close enough to the center of the black hole, it might bend a little, thus bending time). But maybe thats just silly theori ;P. Good luck finding the Black Hole anyway ^^

Making a CERN spaceship seems possible, if it works of course. Think of having a spaceship with two pip-lines inside, coming out together in the front, being capable of shooting two neutrons out, making them slam together. Thus producing a (theoreticly) huge amount of gravity in one tiny spot, bending time in a small radius, hopefully taking the spaceship with it somewhere :) Why not ? ^^

Ah yes, maybe its getting overhand. Its also much more simple than just that. Since its a mere thought of how we see it (Like people having fun : Time seems to pass by faster , People bored : Seems slower). But about the light beams. It was Ronald Mallet, Physician, who came up with the idea, of bending light: Mallett's machine, as laid out in his May 2000 paper in Physics Letters entitled "Weak gravitational field of the electromagnetic radiation in a ring laser," is based on Einstein's formulation that light and matter are both forms of energy. As it is described in his own papers. I think its a fascinating idea. Further he tells about the machine: "We know that matter can bend space-time and according to Einstein's theory, matter and light are both forms of energy. So why can't light bend space-time?" (Qouted) He wish's to use a crystal (some kind of Photonic Crystal) to bend the light in circles, and thus slowing it. (As in a straight line, light travels forward, but bended, it will have to take the de-tour in circles). While this light travels upwards in theese circles, he sends a photon down the opposit direction, and like a vortex, it should slow down (as an arrow flying through an apple, slowing the arrow down), which should, theoreticly, send it "back" in time.

True. But i recently heard of so called information capable of being sent back in time, with help of several laser beams crossing each other. The machine was theoreticly capable of receiving information send from "the future", and sending it back as well... Somehow i was thinking of a mix of many photons, allmost creating "gravity", wich should be able to redirect the information "back in time". Another thing is: I know that "time" (as the word and the way we see it) is human. But insects like fly's, see "time" much slower than we do, so maybe our sight determins the way our brain see's time aswell?

Phrased fine, understandable. But since light is energy aswell, then maybe you could turn it around, and say that surdent amounts of photons might influence the time being of either surrounding or at target of the "beam".

That is true. But was thinking that light must have something to do with time moving, since it is the fastest thing known ever. Thus making it close to the wall of time moving "forwards"... But theoreticly speaking of course :)

Or at least seem a bit slower? ^^

With a Human point of view, will time not theoreticly "stand still" in our minds, if there is an complete absence of light?

And splendid idea it is.

Well hello, glad to finally find a decent place to ask people and rip them for info on something as fascinating as electricity and Light :singer: