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#1 HempGraphene

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 04:05 PM

Salutation curious fellows !!!

 

Some may be interested in having a sustainable merchant marine in an evermore foreign goods importing West.

China&co just fill these big tankers with Oil or Gas to deliver manufactured goods through horribly long distances...

Nobody seems to care much about the VERY obvious problem that steady flow of affordable manna poses !

 

Doesn't atomic energy come very naturally when such tremendous energy levels are required (worldwide sea navigation!) ???

Burning coal, gas or oil for cute tiny little machines to help our guys get the job done Mainland is just OK, but for crossing oceans...

Sounds so stupid !!! It seems that fiat money have impeded pertinent investments from emerging, and protected some who needed to fail..?

 

These Thorium Nuclear Reactors look like the hope of the whole international trade : small scale, cheap raw materials, secured by molten salt chemistry...

Scientists are smart enough to build the staff but too dumb to apply it for the right problem. They want to solve a problem already solved...

They want to compete in the domain of civil energy that is already taken by Coal, Hydro and Gas but don't see the elephant in their face !

 

 

No thanks little man, we already have electricity FOOL !!!

Who here would agree to sign a petition against that smartass to instead get nice Thorium Tankers ?!

Hey don't you want to see our children able to enjoy the delights of cheap chinese products for ever & ever... :bloom: 



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 04:20 PM

Salutation curious fellows !!!

 

Some may be interested in having a sustainable merchant marine in an evermore foreign goods importing West.

China&co just fill these big tankers with Oil or Gas to deliver manufactured goods through horribly long distances...

Nobody seems to care much about the VERY obvious problem that steady flow of affordable manna poses !

 

Doesn't atomic energy come very naturally when such tremendous energy levels are required (worldwide sea navigation!) ???

Burning coal, gas or oil for cute tiny little machines to help our guys get the job done Mainland is just OK, but for crossing oceans...

Sounds so stupid !!! It seems that fiat money have impeded pertinent investments from emerging, and protected some who needed to fail..?

 

These Thorium Nuclear Reactors look like the hope of the whole international trade : small scale, cheap raw materials, secured by molten salt chemistry...

Scientists are smart enough to build the staff but too dumb to apply it for the right problem. They want to solve a problem already solved...

They want to compete in the domain of civil energy that is already taken by Coal, Hydro and Gas but don't see the elephant in their face !

 

 

No thanks little man, we already have electricity FOOL !!!

Who here would agree to sign a petition against that smartass to instead get nice Thorium Tankers ?!

Hey don't you want to see our children able to enjoy the delights of cheap chinese products for ever & ever... :bloom:

No. Large deep-sea vessels generally burn residual fuel oil, which is black as night and so viscous it has to be heated to make it flow. This is something that is otherwise virtually a waste product from the refinery - certainly quite unsuitable for vehicle fuel.

 

So far from wasting a valuable product, the ships do the world a service by burning something difficult to make use of.  The very large diesel engines which propel these ships and can burn such a fuel are very specialised and efficient machines - often close to 50% thermal efficiency. (The lubricants for them have to be pretty special too, as I know very well from my professional experience.)



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Posted 04 March 2017 - 02:45 AM

"Large deep-sea vessels generally burn residual fuel oil, which is black as night and so viscous it has to be heated to make it flow."

 

​In Canada, it have become economicly viable to squeeze the HELL out of the very ground they walk upon to get Crude.

And when I say "Crude" I really mean bitumen & extremely heavy crude oil !!!

​They take what you describe as almost useless and actually know how to efficiently make it highly exploitable...

​They have so cheap electricity that if they process the raw materials with electrical machinery it becomes affordable.

 

 

​I actually find any form of crude oil way too precious to burn in a boat while little men struggle so much on terra ferma !



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Posted 04 March 2017 - 04:27 AM

"Large deep-sea vessels generally burn residual fuel oil, which is black as night and so viscous it has to be heated to make it flow."

 

​In Canada, it have become economicly viable to squeeze the HELL out of the very ground they walk upon to get Crude.

And when I say "Crude" I really mean bitumen & extremely heavy crude oil !!!

​They take what you describe as almost useless and actually know how to efficiently make it highly exploitable...

​They have so cheap electricity that if they process the raw materials with electrical machinery it becomes affordable.

 

 

​I actually find any form of crude oil way too precious to burn in a boat while little men struggle so much on terra ferma !

That is what the oil industry would like to be true as well, which is why many refineries upgrade residual oil in various cracking processes. However there is a limit to this, due to the fact that the "heavier" fraction have more carbon and less hydrogen than the lighter fractions. Upgrading, to produce more fuel suitable for these land uses you speak of, requires an addition of hydrogen, which has to come from somewhere. Some crudes lend themselves to producing asphalt, which is one alternative way to get rid of surplus carbon which has some value. Others use "cokers" which produce high grade coke for steelmaking etc and get value out of surplus carbon that way. But in the end there is always more carbon than you want, relative to the hydrogen available. If you cannot do either of the previous options, you make fuel oil for power stations and ships.


Edited by exchemist, 04 March 2017 - 04:28 AM.


#5 HempGraphene

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:34 AM

"requires an addition of hydrogen"

 

​Hydrogenation is some of the easiest chemical process of modern chemistry !

​Read the labels of your food at the occasion, it's just filled with the staff...

​And people are starting to fear that thing for serious health concerns, so they better change their business plans.

 

 

You got Carbon saturated tar, more Methanol than to do with and a Saturated Fat industry in need of new perspectives...

I think there could be some money to make here ! Excuse me I got a few stocks to buy, I leave you to meditate friends !!! :money: