I don’t believe there’s a well-defined scientific consensus about the origin of the measurement of time. Do you have any links or references supporting your claim

The earliest sundial or shadow clock is reliably dated to about 1500 BC. Some believe that large monuments, obelisks, dating back to 3500 BC were used as sundial gnomons, but this view is contested (sources: Wikipedia article History of timekeeping devices, description of Sarah Symons’ rejection of Borchardt and Bruins’ theories about Egyptian obelisks)

There are many ways to measure durations. Measuring changes in shadows cast by sundials is but one. Not all ways involve measuring lengths. The most common method, by number of devices, is counting the oscillations in the voltage applied to a quartz crystal in the clock signal generating chip of a computer. Arguably the most ancient method is counting your breaths or heartbeats.

This discussion is wandering far from the thread’s original question “how can the speed of light be faster than time itself”. That question, I think, is answered simply by pointing out that the question makes an error, comparing a quantity of dimension LT^{-1}to one of dimension T, as I explained at more length in post #2.

In measuring anything we have to use two points, A and B and the measurement of {A,B} a set , equals a duration of time that we set. A≡B≡C holds true and A||B ||C holds true.

I only have access to the same knowledge you have on the internet, I think it is pretty factual that to measure we have to use two points and the origin of time was sun dials and likes.

Yes indeed a person can count their own time accurately.

I have rewrote my first two states of time that presently science uses.

State 1

1-Time is an abstract creation by mankind to synchronise their everyday activities.

1.1- This state of time is originally denoted by the relative movement of the earth’s spin relative to the motion of the sun. We nowadays use clocks to represent the twenty four hours or so of rotation relative to the two bodies, An invention of a measurement that would go on to synchronise our every day activities and to aid in the scaling of space and the measurement of speed and such. A measurement based on a degree of motion /distance or frequency rate.

1.2-A sun dial works by a degree of movement of the shadow,a clock works by a degree of movement of the fingers, a caesium clock uses a cycle rate

1.3- This abstract time = distance/motion/frequency, this is presently how we record and measure time.

1.4 -point values of {A,B} where A≡B holds true and A||B holds true and A≡B≡C holds true and A||B ||C holds true.

state 2

2-Time is virtual representation of the dimension of the whole of space and virtual vectors of space.(Minkowskis space-time)

2.1– This state of time is a virtual representation of estimation, I.e we can calculate a journey of one mile will take one hour to travel at a constant speed of 1 mph. Minkowskis created space-time , virtual representations of dimensions of space to represent virtual journey paths through space that have not yet taken place.

2.2-Space-time existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence, a virtual representation of vectors existing only in the imagination of the observer to represent spacial distance and the path that a moving object follows through space as a function of time synchronised to the observers relationship or expression involving one or more variables.

2.3-Four dimensions of X,Y and Z and a time linearity, interwoven into a single manifold to virtually represent how long a spacial journey would take an observer to travel or to calculate an objects velocity and as likewise, a three point geometric synchronisation using time to denote four-dimensional Minkowski space-time, ''a fundamental concept of the human mind structure human experience(Immanuel Kant)''. Immanuel Kant also believed that time was neither an event or a thing and in-itself unmeasurable.

2.4-In agreement with Kant, I believe time in space or of space can not exist and is unaccountable in any other sense than abstract and of the human imagination. In the representation of a void, the quantity of time becomes unmeasurable because there is no point to point values of {A,B} where A≡B holds true and A||B holds true.

And the maths for my 3rd state which I have not written in great detail yet.

t3=σ²/g

It is very simple that time has no set rate so therefore can not accurately be measured to A=B

**Edited by xyz, 09 November 2015 - 10:49 AM.**