How to save a life of a stroke patient ?

[theblackalchemist]

Keep a syringe or needle in your home to do this... It's amazing and an unconventional way of recovering from stroke, read it through it can help somebody one day.

This is amazing. Please keep this very handy.. Excellent tips. Do take a minute to read this. You'll never know. One's life may depend on you.

" My father was paralyzed and later died from the result of a stroke. I wish I knew about this first aid before. When stroke strikes, the capillaries in the brain will gradually burst." (Irene Liu)

When a stroke occurs, stay calm. No matter where the victim is,do not move him/her. Because, if moved, the capillaries will burst. Help the victim to sit up where he is to prevent him from falling over again, and then the bloodletting can begin. If you have in your home an injection syringe that would be the best, otherwise, a sewing needle or a straight pin will do.

1. Place the needle/pin over fire to sterilize it, and then use it to prick the tip of all 10 fingers.

2. There are no specific acupuncture points, just prick about a mm from the fingernail.

3. Prick till blood comes out.

4. If blood does not start to drip, then squeeze with your fingers.

5. When all 10 digits is bleeding,wait a few minutes then the victim will regain consciousness.

6. If the victim's mouth is crooked, then pull on his ears until they are red.

7. Then prick each ear lobe twice until two drops of blood comes from each ear lobe. After a few minutes the victim should regain consciousness.

Wait till the victim regain his normal state without any abnormal symptoms then take him to the hospital, otherwise, if he was taken in the ambulance in a hurry to the hospital, the bumpy trip will cause all the capillaries in his brain to burst. If he could save his life,barely managing to walk, then it is by the grace of his ancestors.

 

 

 

 

any idea how does this work out ?

TBA

[Michaelangelica]

Give them an aspirin?

[PsyCho]

1. Place the needle/pin over fire to sterilize it, and then use it to prick the tip of all 10 fingers.

2. There are no specific acupuncture points, just prick about a mm from the fingernail.

3. Prick till blood comes out.

4. If blood does not start to drip, then squeeze with your fingers.

5. When all 10 digits is bleeding,wait a few minutes then the victim will regain consciousness.

6. If the victim's mouth is crooked, then pull on his ears until they are red.

7. Then prick each ear lobe twice until two drops of blood comes from each ear lobe. After a few minutes the victim should regain consciousness

 

theblackalchemist

 

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Not meaning to get technical on your *** but this is B****x

 

A stroke is caused 90% of the time by a clot occuding an artery within the cerebral circulation, roughly 9% of the time by a haemorrhage within the brain substance, and then there are a few rarer causes such as carotid dissection.

 

HOW TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A STROKE PATIENT:

 

Step 1.

Make sure their airway is patent, they are breathing, pulse is present..

 

Step 2.

Dial 999/911 ASAP!!!!! These guys do best with thrombolysis (clot busting drugs); This has been proved with HUGE studies involving many thousands of patients, however there are some conditions that need to be met.

 

a) You need to give the throbolytic drug within 3 hours from onset of systems.. So clock is ticking!

 

B) Before you administer thrombolysis you need to CT the head to make sure it's not a haemorrhage.... So clock is REALLY ticking!!!

 

Aspirin takes about 3-4 days to have an anticlotting effect, and some stroke patients loose their ability to swallow. There is no benefit giving that initially, and could actually make matters worse if they aspirate the water etc and develop an aspiration pneumonia which COULD KILL THEM! Get them to hospital!

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT WASTE TIME DOING POINTS 1-7

YOU WILL NOT BE THANKED, YOU ARE WASTING TIME, YOU ARE TORTURING YOUR PATIENT AND NOT HELPING THEM, YOU ARE ACHIEVING NOTHING USEFUL IN THE SLIGHTEST!

IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST DANGEROUS FIRST AID ADVICE I HAVE EVER READ!!!

 

I stress again:

 

DIAL AMBULANCE, GET THEM TO HOSPITAL, GET THEM THERE QUICKLY

 

Q: How could it work..

A: It wasn't a stroke, or was only a TIA... Seriously, don't do it!

[Michaelangelica]

Sorry, suitably admonished

Can I give an asprin to a heart attack victim?

How do you know the difference?

[Monomer]

Can I give an asprin to a heart attack victim?

How do you know the difference?

 

Yes, it would help:

Aspirin and Heart Disease

 

Taking an aspirin for a stroke is not recommended because if the stroke is caused by ruptured blood vessels rather than a blood clot, the aspirin would just make the bleeding worse.

 

 

You can tell if it's a heart attack or stroke by the following symptoms:

 

Heart attack

• chest discomfort
  
• discomfort in the arms, neck or jaw
  
• shortness of breath
  
• cold sweat, nausea or lightheadedness
  

 

Stroke

• Sudden numbness or weakness of the face, arm or leg, especially on one side of the body
  
• Sudden confusion, trouble speaking or understanding
  
• Sudden trouble seeing in one or both eyes
  
• Sudden trouble walking, dizziness, loss of balance or coordination
  
• Sudden, severe headache with no known cause
  

 

For more detailed info Heart Attack, Stroke and Cardiac Arrest Warning Signs

[Michaelangelica]

Calls To Doctor's Office May Delay Stroke Treatment

 

ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2008) — Calling a primary care doctor instead of 9-1-1 at the first sign of a stroke can delay patients from reaching an emergency room during the most critical period -- the first three hours after onset of stroke symptoms,

. . .

Overall, 22 percent of emergency room stroke patients had first called a family doctor. Only 32 percent called an ambulance immediately.

 

Among those who called a family doctor, 45 percent were screened over the phone and advised to call an ambulance. Thirty-six percent were advised to be seen by the doctor. Of these two groups, those advised to call an ambulance experienced a median time of 92 minutes to ambulance call while those who waited to be examined experienced median times of 412 minutes -- nearly 7 hours prior to an ambulance being called.

 

The delay in calling an ambulance was nearly 10 times greater for those who waited to be seen by their physician (median 412 minutes) than for those who called an ambulance immediately (median 44 minutes).

. . .

The American Stroke Association recommends calling 9-1-1 immediately if any of these stroke warning signs occur:

 

* Sudden numbness or weakness of the face, arm or leg, especially on one side of the body

* Sudden confusion, trouble speaking or understanding

* Sudden trouble seeing in one or both eyes

* Sudden trouble walking, dizziness, loss of balance or coordination

* Sudden, severe headache with no known cause.

Calls To Doctor's Office May Delay Stroke Treatment

 

In Australia you dial 000: although because of so much USA TV I think 911 works too.

What about other countries?

 

The above symptoms also posted by Monomer could easily be mistaken for drunkenness, could they not?

Any way of knowing the difference?

Smell I guess, but what about someone who has had a few+ drinks and displays above symptoms?

 

Does alcohol raise BP?

[PsyCho]

I stand by my original rant on this thread and I actually now work in a stroke unit. This is taken from the stroke associations website, think FAST:

 

Facial weakness - can the person smile? Has their mouth or eye drooped?

Arm weakness - can the person raise both arms?

Speech problems - can the person speak clearly and understand what you say?

Test all three symptoms

 

"If the person has failed any one of these tests, you must call 999. Stroke is a medical emergency and by calling 999 you can help someone reach hospital quickly and receive the early treatment they need. Prompt action can prevent further damage to the brain and help someone make a full recovery. Delay can result in death or major long-term disabilities, such as paralysis, severe memory loss and communication problems"

 

Cheers chaps

[Michaelangelica]

Facial weakness - can the person smile? Has their mouth or eye drooped?

Arm weakness - can the person raise both arms?

Speech problems - can the person speak clearly and understand what you say?

Test all three symptoms

So to test all three symptoms

You say:" Raise both arms, smile at me"

But if they "can't understand what you say?"

Then what?

 

They could still be just drunk?

or

drunk and having a stroke?

[PsyCho]

Could be, surprisingly common.. Judgment call I guess, though if in doubt send them to ER - one of the natural habitats of the exceptionally drunk :confused: