TheBigDog Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Want conspiracy for invasion of privacy? All laptop computers have a microphone built in. Imagine that within the bowels of Windows there was a program that could passivly record the stream of data from that microphone, and send it to a location when a net connection is detected. You could bug any computer in the world that way. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Want conspiracy for invasion of privacy? All laptop computers have a microphone built in. Imagine that within the bowels of Windows there was a program that could passivly record the stream of data from that microphone, and send it to a location when a net connection is detected. You could bug any computer in the world that way. Bill Which could be fed directly into AI... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Topics like this can quickly devolve into a slippery slope of self-reinforcing conspiracy theories. That said... Here's mine... :) Nano-viral tags inserting themselves into our DNA. Not only will there be an RFID in packages of the food I eat, but the food itself has been modified such that my cells and DNA will be altered by nano-viral tags during metabolism... Oh yeah... That's a whole other level of Orwellian right there my friends... :) Seriosly though? If it's not one implementation of societal distraction resulting from fear induced by organized information delivery, it will be another. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 :) ...Nano-viral tags inserting themselves into our DNA. Not only will there be an RFID in packages of the food I eat, but the food itself has been modified such that my cells and DNA will be altered by nano-viral tags during metabolism...Oh yeah... That's a whole other level of Orwellian right there my friends... :) ___This is in-line with some of the forecasts given in the paper C1ay linked to in post #6. I note the author claims it is inevitable & seems to think it's OK.Law of Accelerating Returns: http://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0134.html?printable=1 PS I'm off to watch some more news. I shall return! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Topics like this can quickly devolve into a slippery slope of self-reinforcing conspiracy theories. Seriosly though? If it's not one implementation of societal distraction resulting from fear induced by organized information delivery, it will be another. :) I think Concern is a better word.RFID won't kill me. Turtle is voicing a Strong Concern over the implementation of said technologies.It may concern him that People/corporations know he likes Turkey Chile with Garlic, and know exactly how to solicit him. :) It concerns me that we may all need to get a SmartChip implantation, and that the old way of Cash Exchange is no longer viable. Clay makes a good point in that we really could benefit from this sorta' Tech, and other tech like it.I share my doubts like Turtle in that it could easily be manipulated in the wrong hands. People who believe, that people who believe there is a Conspiracy are nuts, ought to:1) Put their right hand on their left ear2) Put their left hand on their right earand3) pull their head out of their ***. :) I know there is a conspiracy when something stupid like the Micheal Jackson Trial distracts and captivates a good majority of the people from what the Hell is really going on in this world! :) Lets not show people getting blown up in this War in Iraq...Let them See Nick and Jessica Simpson get a divorce!Don't think about North Korea, or Chinese Generals talking about Nuking the West Coast over Taiwan...,Instead lets show them American Idol. You are right about the distraction part InfiniteNow... And why I lumped my Conspiracy concerns in with RFID thread,I guess it's 'cuz I could use some counciling! Or stronger Medication! Or both! Put Me Back In My Straight Jacket Please!!!thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I say Go ahead with Stem Cell Research, and Cloning too.Plus development of smaller Tactical Nukes.National ID cards with Smart Chips. the whole 9...I'll second that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 ___Maybe not suppress, but certainly need to control technological advances. I don't have a problem with an RFID on a box, or every box & the box (container) they're in, or even on a removable sales tag on a purchased item. BUT...embedding these devices into the items in a way so they are ever active is beyond the pale. ___Once an item is sold, where is the legitimate efficiency need to the consumer to have an RFID tag in it? I simply don't see it.Several deactivators are being explored now that could be used to deactivate the tags at the end of the distribution stream. Plenty of people that are part of the development process of this technology have the same concerns as you. I think they will influence development towards a less exploitable model. Turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I'll second that.... C1ay...you're a caution! GETE (Grinning Ear To Ear) You can't hide from my rep power this time!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Several deactivators are being explored now that could be used to deactivate the tags at the end of the distribution stream. Plenty of people that are part of the development process of this technology have the same concerns as you. I think they will influence development towards a less exploitable model. I heard puttin' them in a microwave does a good job.:) No really!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 http://hypography.com/forums/computers-technology/495-national-id-chip-implant.htmland i stand by everything i said..... still.... Turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C1ay Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 An example of Turtle's fears :hyper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 An example of Turtle's fears :hyper: :hyper: That would be funny if it weren't really my record! - James Alexander Kelly, aka JAK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteNow Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 An example of Turtle's fears :hyper:That's perfect!!! :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racoon Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 RFID is invasion of privacy AND good business! both.I've come to decide. :hyper: :hyper: :eek: :hyper: Who says you can't have your cake and tag it too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 RFID is may get implemented, but its implementation should not exceed the backs of warehouses, which i should mention would make them searchable and would make a load easier to find long lost items, however it is a total invasion of privacy if it ever gets implemented in the real world, it is a totaly bogus idea and a bad attempt at making shopping as well as finding stuff in your house easier as it allows anyone to do exactly the same as you do, and search your house in attempts to find such things as drugs for example, someone may use them to cause others greater harm then it could be possibly done in the modern world.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I've an idea; let's collect them (RFID tags) & put them into little kits & then use the kits to get special treatment. A kit might have a Guci tag & a Nike tag & a this or that tag which all in combination broadcast the identidty you choose. Then when you get scanned as you enter a store, sales people come fawning all over you thinking you're rich, or famous, or whatever.If you can't beat them, play with them like dollys.:hihi: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I remember seeing a sales pitch for active RFID tags built into wristbands. They were being sold to an amusement park so parents could rent them and put them on their kids. The parents got a matching id card, and could use it to locate their kid in the park. I think if gave a real 3D coordinate down to less than 1 meter. I don't think they installed it because of the prohibative cost of installing the readers to cover the whole park. Each worked with a 300 foot radius. And they needed to overlap to give pinpoint coordinates without blind spots. As a parent I think that would be really cool because I could let the kids roam more freely without worrying about them getting lost in the park, while I could spend time enjoying different things. Theme parks will be the trailblazers for the scary tracking technology that everyone has been alluding to. They love to get marketing and foot traffic information so they can maximize the profits they get from each guest. It effects the changes they make year over year. Look for getting a passive RFID tag at theme parks soon that acts as your pass for all exhibits, rides, shops, etc. Some of them have already started. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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