rockytriton Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1424896 A PA Judge ruled today that ID can't be a part of the biology curriculum. To me, this is a victory on many levels. A victory for science in that only science will be taught in science class. A victory for America in that our morals of freedom of religion will be upheld and a victory for ID & Creationism in that they will now only be taught by qualified people (members of the church of your choice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctus Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Well I don't know if creationists see it as a victory.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockytriton Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 I would think they would. If they don't want their kids to be taught evolution because it conflicts with their belief then I doubt they want them taught yet another theory that conflicts with their belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwes99_03 Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 I certainly can say that I never believed it would succeed. Do I believe that "creation" is as viable a theory as evolution? Yes. Does this mean that it had any chance of being taught in school? No. The reason being that it still reflects the idea that there is someone higher than humans that is super powerful, and can't be seen or studied physically. For these very reasons it falls into the realm of spirituality and must be separated from the public education system.I do however believe that more needs to be done to teach the flaws of the theory of evolution, so that more people will understand that it is just a theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargazer Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 ID is not a scientific theory, let alone a mainstream scientific theory, and so has no place in any school, public or private, except in some comparative religion class or on the history of philosophy or something. What the ID proponents try to do, is to sidestep the entire scientific method and at the same time present it all as science. It's not science, but it's science. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queso Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 "victory Is Flawless" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindagarrette Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Why would anyone want to refute scientific facts if not to promote a religious view? Science is intersubjectively reliable. No matter where you are on the planet, the same laws apply. ID and creationism is based entirely on an interpretation that requires doctrine to be passed down without evidence or testing. Why is anyone on this forum even discussing this matter. I keep reading the same arguments over and over from opponents of Evolution and none of them make any sense, and they don't improve. How many times can you say the same thing over and over until it becomes a broken record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwes99_03 Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 My apologies. I'll edit this post after infy removed it. I was not intending to mock or offend anyone. I simply wanted to show the point of Linda's last comment about broken records. It has been withdrawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctus Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Why is anyone on this forum even discussing this matter. I keep reading the same arguments over and over from opponents of Evolution and none of them make any sense, and they don't improve. Linda this is the reason we have now a theology forum well separatred fromthe science ones: so that those who want to discuss religion (more scientifically or less scientifically) can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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